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And what is old and still there… The tagged Accessibilty PDF bugs with hyperlinks and captions! Use auto captions and they will be gone in a tagged PDF! That bug is there since 15.0, the first version of 2020 and is still there in 15.02…
Unbelievable…!
Thanks for the news, particularly about the scripts. Briefly, a few weeks back, CC claimed I had an ID update, but it wasn’t there when I went looking for it. Now it is here for good. I also like how it now comes up with a window that lets us specify how the auto-update works. Before you had to find those preferences yourself. “Remove old versions” is unclear though. I’d like to keep older major upgrades around, but replace the 15.0 version. Adobe wants those old versions gone. Many of us regard them as a ‘just in case’ security blanket.
The addition of scripts is a good move. Both scripts and GREP S&R are among the most under-appreciated features of ID. I do wish, however, that there was an easy way to ‘get information’ about script or a saved search other that by running it and seeing what happens.
Michael, at least regarding my two contributions to Community Scripts (Break Text Thread and Snap Margins to Text Frame) I have a full description of the scripts on my website.
Break Text Thread: https://www.id-extras.com/break-text-thread/
Snap Margins: https://www.id-extras.com/snap-margins-to-text-frame/
Ariel
Nice job dude. I like the Margin Script.
This update created havoc in my ID workspace. I lost premium and free scripts, as well as GREP queries. They were apparently deleted from my PC. They are not in the usual folders where scripts and GREP from previous versions are stored. I could not find them in the Explorer search either.
Restoring the previous ID version did not solved the problem. I have lost many work hours because of this update. Did it happen to someone else?
On my Mac, updating did not lose any scripts that are in my User folder. Were your scripts in the User folder, or the Application folder?
My reply to Valentina hasn’t appeared here yet, but I’ve got the same issue on my Mac after the update, particularly missing GREP searches, which are very important in what I do. I managed to locate them in a backup and in the trash, so I can restore them, although after more effort than I’d like. They were in a folder called Version 12.0, so it may be that ID isn’t moving those files into a new one called Version 15.0. Get in touch with me if you want explore what went wrong. Otherwise, I’d just patch the problem.
Since she seems to be running Windows and I’m on a Mac, this problem might be affecting quite a few people. It’s not the sort of thing that may show up in beta testing because that’s not coming as a full install like this was.
My second reply to Valentina hasn’t appeared underneath her posting, but my one to David did, so I’ll put my advice to her here. I see the same issue on my Mac that she is seeing on Windows. The items in my S&R pull-down menu are gone. I did however find them on my backup drive and in the trash. Here’s my advice.
Let nothing on your computer get deleted until you search carefully for those files. Don’t allow another backup, since that may write over the existing one and delete nothing in your trash. Look carefully for those files in both. If Windows is like my Mac, their file name will be the name in the S&R pull-down menu followed by .xml. Find one of them and you will have probably found all of them. When you find them, drag them to where they should have been placed. David will know where that is better than I.
–Mike Perry, Inkling Books
All my scripts were in the User folder.
The same here, Valentina Truneanu, and on my Mac no less. All my custom-made GREP scripts aren’t there. Indeed, where they should be is a folder called Version 15.0. Doing a search did turn them up on my Carbon Copy Cloner (bless its developer) in a folder Library ▸ Application Support ▸ Adobe ▸ InDesign ▸ Version 12.0. Apparently, the files that were in folders connected with older versions of ID weren’t moved over. That is my guess anyway.
My case is complicated by the fact that ID was refusing to start a few weeks ago. An Adobe support person did what people in that ‘country which cannot be named’ typically do. He was told by a superior to fix the problem, not by any troubleshooting, but by deleting every possible Adobe file. That he did most industriously but without any initiative on his part. After about fifteen minutes of mad deleting by him remotely I made him stop. ID now works, but who knows what he deleted that could cause issues.
The good news is that I didn’t trust his assurances that ID would recreate the files the next time it opened. I’ve kept all those deleted files in what is now an enormously full trash can. Between what CCC saved and the items in the trash, I can restore all those very vital GREP searches.
I would strongly suggest that you do something similar. Don’t let anything that might have been trashed by this install get permanently deleted. Don’t empty your trash. Do not let a new backup overwrite the old. Search through the wreckage for those missing scripts.
Rather than spend hours diagnosing this mess, I’m simply going to find what went missing and put it where it belongs. And of course between those support deletes and this update, that leaves me wondering what else might have gone awry.
However, if David wants to contact me by email, we can discuss either by email or over the phone what evidence the evidence in those CCC files and my as yet undeleted items in the trash seems to indicate about what went awry. He can tell me what to look for and where. He knows that far better than I. If this issue exists on Valentina’s Windows machine and and my Mac, it is probably affecting a lot of others.
–Mike Perry
My first reply to you still hasn’t appeared, so I’ll add this remark. I have the same issue on my Mac. Fortunately, I managed to find the missing GREP routines on a backup drive. If you’ve got a backup, you might go looking there. The file names were the same as their description in the search listing. Windows is no doubt structured differently but my Mac, one set of them was in:
Library ▸ Preferences ▸ Adobe InDesign ▸ Version 10.0 ▸ en_US ▸ Find-Change
There were actually several files with different version numbers on the folder. If I were to guess, installs in the past must have moved those files into a new folder associated with the new version. That even seems to have happened with the original 15.0. But in this update that apparently failed to happen. In fact, Library/Preferences doesn’t even have an Adobe InDesign folder any more.
My key advice. Don’t delete anything in your trash. The missing files may be there. Look for them. There are the same as the name in the search list and end in .xml. And if you have a daily backup, don’t run it until you’ve searched there too. Another backup might write over them.
Since this has appeared on both Windows and Mac, I suspect we are not alone.
–Mike Perry, Inkling Books
Thanks, Mike, for your detailed answers. I am afraid those scripts, presets and GREP searches are lost.
My trash bin was empty. I did not delete anything in the last weeks.
The path in Windows for the script user folder is:
User > [Name] > AppData > Roaming > Adobe > InDesign > Version 15.0 > de_DE > Scripts
I had a backup for my .INDD files, but not for the scripts or other ID files. Now I know I need to back up these, too.
In my case, maybe there was an issue related to my ID version. I used to work in the German version, but last month I changed to the ME version, because I am working with bilingual texts. My user interface is still in German, although in my Creative Cloud settings I chose English – Hebrew as installation language.
I lost every preset, script and GREP or text search I did while working in the ME version. Previous files were in the usual folders.
When I was looking for a solution, I changed the installation to the German one, and then I went back to ME. There is a folder Version 15.0-ME, but it does not contain any .xml files.
A SUCCESSFUL FIX: Glad to see all my remarks about this very frustrating issue have made its way through the queue and online. In my case, I found those missing GREP and test find-changes in my Mac trash in a set of folders with these paths further down. I can only assume that installing the latest update put them there. The previous parts of these path were lost in the move to the trash.
Version 15.0/en_US/Find-Change Queries/GREP
and
Version 15.0/en_US/Find-Change Queries/Text
I put them into these folders at the lowest drive level (not the user level).
Applications/Adobe InDesign 2020/Presets/Find-Change Queries/GREP
and
Applications/Adobe InDesign 2020/Presets/Find-Change Queries/Text
Those pull-down searches are now available inside ID. It would have been a monstrous pain to have to re-invent them. If you have this problem, I wish you similar luck and can only hope something else we need hasn’t been similarly trashed.
–Mike Perry
Hi Mike
While putting your find change-preference xmls into the application-presets folder is going to make the search queries show up in Indesign I think this should be avoided.
I am pretty sure that folder is going to get replaced the next time you update Indesign.
I don’t know the path on a windows computer, but on a mac you would want to put them into:
Users/[your username]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Indesign/Version 15.0/en_US/Find-Change Queries/GREP
and
Users/[your username]/Library/Preferences/Adobe Indesign/Version 15.0/en_US/Find-Change Queries/Text
And then make sure to check “import preferences” when installing new versions.
But it cannot hurt to keep a copy of those xmls in a folder somewhere out of the reach of any updates. :-)
It had been a monstruous pain to re-invent everything, Mike. That’s why I have lost many hours with this issue.
I don’t know where the Preferences or equivalent folder is in Windows. The applications folder can be found in:
Programs > Adobe > Adobe InDesign 2020 > Scripts.
There is also a Local folder in:
Users > [Username] > AppData > Local > Adobe > InDesign > Version 15.0
Would it be the right place to put the xml files? Anyway, I will backup everything before I install a new ID update.
For Windows, the Find-Change Queries folder is located in:
C:/Users/[your username]/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/InDesign/Version 15.0/[local language folder] e.g. en_GB
The folder is hidden by default, so tick ‘Hidden items’ in Explorer’s view menu.
I also noticed version 14.0 was also still present in the Indesign folder, so there might be a backup in there.
Another cool bug I just experienced with the new update….
https://indesign.uservoice.com/forums/601180-adobe-indesign-bugs/suggestions/39858127-indesign-2020-font-errors-with-system-fonts-error
It’s worth mentioning that you should report the GREP issue here… the above issue I was experiencing is already under review by Adobe and this could be too!
https://indesign.uservoice.com
Since upgrading to 15.0.2, the File Info dialogue box no longer displays.
Select File Info from the menu bar, no dialogue box appears, all other menu items are greyed out, can’t do anything except Escape; at which point other menu items become usable again. Behaviour is as if the dialogue is there but just not visible.
OS is macOS Mojave 10.14.6
Before reporting as a bug, I want to check if anyone else has the same issue.
Thanks n cheers, Raimund
@Raimund,
I’ve had no problems with files I’ve created with 15.0.2 under macOS 10.15.3. Have you tried restoring your preferences? That’s what I’d suggest.
I don’t think this is a new bug. I have seen similar behaviour off and on for some years, especially when moving from a larger screen to a smaller. The dialog box is open off screen. Keith Gilbert posted a fix some years ago on his blog: remove “DVADialogPrefs.xml’ and restart ID. Worked for Illustrator as well.
G’day Folks
Tried Lindsey’s suggestion to remove ‘DVADialogPrefs.xml’ before the more drastic total preference trashing and it’s worked perfectly.
Many thanks for your help.
Thanks n cheers, Raimund