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Grouped image captions cut off

Margaret Hunter · 2017-06-30T05:15:01-07:00

I am trying the technique of grouping an image with a caption (in a separate text frame) and anchoring in the text above line, as per Anne-Marie's videos, with the aim of keeping the image and caption together. I have set up an object style to centre the grouped image+caption and place it above line. I have a CSS style to make objects centred and auto height. This does keep the two together, but the captions are sometimes getting chopped off at the bottom if I use Relative to text flow, so I guess the caption frame is not adjusting size when the page size changes or it's viewed in double column. If I use Relative to text size, the group image+caption is not centred but forced right, so losing some of the image. I'd very much appreciate a foolproof description of the right way to keep captions and images together! Thank you. Using ID CC 2017

This topic has 3 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by Paul Marriner.

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- June 30, 2017 at 5:15 am #95769
  
  Margaret Hunter
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  I am trying the technique of grouping an image with a caption (in a separate text frame) and anchoring in the text above line, as per Anne-Marie’s videos, with the aim of keeping the image and caption together. I have set up an object style to centre the grouped image+caption and place it above line. I have a CSS style to make objects centred and auto height.
  
  This does keep the two together, but the captions are sometimes getting chopped off at the bottom if I use Relative to text flow, so I guess the caption frame is not adjusting size when the page size changes or it’s viewed in double column. If I use Relative to text size, the group image+caption is not centred but forced right, so losing some of the image.
  
  I’d very much appreciate a foolproof description of the right way to keep captions and images together! Thank you.
  
  Using ID CC 2017
- June 30, 2017 at 7:26 pm #95790
  
  Aaron Troia
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  Sorry to say that I have long since given up on trying to keep images and their captions together, it’s almost a loosing battle and one that I really dont believe those who develop e-reader book engines really care about doing right, either that or it just might be really difficult to implement as there is no real defined page since ebooks are really just linear HTML pages linked together by the OPF XML.
  
  That said I have used a div before with a class that uses the page-break-inside:avoid; attribute which I think helped keep things together, but its really tedious to add around everything in your HTML. I also havent used it in awhile so I’m not guaranteeing that it is absolutely foolproof, so you may need to do some testing and see how its working on your end. I really dont know of any work arounds from working within InDesign, most of my work with this usually happens in the HTML of the unzipped ePub file after InDesign export.
  
  Aaron
- July 1, 2017 at 10:06 am #95795
  
  Margaret Hunter
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  Thanks, Aaron
- July 3, 2017 at 12:41 pm #95853
  
  Paul Marriner
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  I’ve used Aaron’s solution successfully for epubs (at least on the devices I’ve tested) but it won’t survive conversion to kpf (Kindle). The only way I’ve heard that works for Kindles is the combining captions and images into a single image. While this works it has several drawbacks, not the least is the caption is no longer editable.
  
  Paul
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