Using InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop Together: Linking and Embedding Files
Working with links
Working with links is where the concept of InDe-Illu-Shop really takes off. You may be working in InDesign for example, but you’re only a click away from Illustrator or Photoshop.
Modifying links
Let’s say you’re working on a layout in either InDesign or Illustrator and you realize you need to change something in the original file. Both InDesign and Illustrator have Links panels for artwork where you can choose to edit the original image. But it’s much faster and easier to just Opt/Alt-double-click the linked image. It automatically opens in either Photoshop or Illustrator. This is why you always want to launch all three programs when you start working.
Once the external artwork is modified, save it. When you come back to the layout you’ll see the yellow triangle icon that indicates the file needs to be updated. In InDesign you can choose Update Link or double-click the yellow triangle in the Links panel to update the file. Or you can click the links badge on the file’s frame. In Illustrator, you can only choose Update Link in the Links panel.
Finding missing links
There may be times when a linked file goes missing. You’ll see the red question mark icon for missing images. Inst
ead of putting up “Lost File” fliers in your neighborhood, choose Relink from the Layers panel and navigate to the folder or directory where you think the missing file is located. Once you’ve found the file, choose it. Power tip: In InDesign if other missing images are found in the folder, those too will be updated.
Embedding files
Both InDesign and Illustrator let you embed files into the document. When you embed a file, you don’t have to send the original to the print shop. Most people don’t do this often as it adds to the size of the file. However, there are times when you do want to embed files.
Embedding into InDesign
Some people will tell you never, ever to embed an image into an InDesign file. But let’s say you have only one image, like a corporate logo, in the file. You might want to embed the file in the document instead of needing to maintain a link to an external file. A file like a logo is small enough that you can embed it without problems.
When you embed a placed file in an InDesign document, (choose Embed Link from the Links panel menu), all the information is contained inside the embedded image. The image is listed in the Links panel, and be displayed with an embed icon. But the embedded file is still enclosed in a “protective shell.” You can’t go into to modify the individual colors, paths, or layers in the file. You need to unlink the file, (choose Unlink Link from the Links panel menu), and open it in Photoshop or Illustrator.
Embedding into Illustrator
Illustrator has the ability to embed and unembed files like InDesign and offers some additional options when working with layered Photoshop files. If you place a layered Photoshop file and keep the Link checkbox enabled (the default setting), then the image comes in just like InDesign. All the layers are contained together. You can embed or unembed the file. You don’t have the option to re-link to the original file, but you can just write over the original.
Placing or pasting into Photoshop
I don’t know many people who use Photoshop as their main page layout program. I did meet a book cover designer who had created a Photoshop files with upwards of 200 layers. He found it was too difficult to work with that placed image in InDesign. He also wanted the flexibility to put text between the layers of the Photoshop document. For him, Photoshop was the best layout choice.
Vector smart objects
We’ll cover this topic in more detail in a future article but for now, just recognize that when you place or paste Illustrator artwork into Photoshop, you have the option to choose a vector smart object. But you can’t create a vector smart object using the Place command in Photoshop. You have to paste the artwork. Vector smart objects are almost like placing linked images into InDesign or Illustrator.
A vector smart object comes into Photoshop on its own layer. If you double-click the layer, it opens Illustrator where you can edit the document. However, unlike the linked files in the other programs, the actual vector information is stored within the Photoshop file—not as a separate Illustrator file. So you can send the Photoshop file to someone else and they can edit the vector information without needing an external file.
You can create vector smart objects by pasting Illustrator or InDesign artwork into Photoshop. However, both types of vector smart objects are edited in Illustrator. Photoshop treats the InDesign artwork as if it came from Illustrator.
In conclusion
Understanding how to get files in and out of the other programs can help you decide which application to use as your page layout tool. Then you can confiedntly place or embed files from the rest of InDe-Illu-Shop.
Here is a chatr I did to show right the same thing in my clases: The Adobe Big Chart shows how about 100 applications from Adobe System can interchange information. The PDF contains the programms in different workflows and shows how “native” the linking is. Power Tip: use the PDF layers palette do break down the workflows. Hint: start with the “printworkflow” and add more clutter. (Need the Adobe Reader, does not work in browsers previews.) Link to the free english CS6 version of the Big chart PDF: (CC version is about to come) https://tilorust.com/adobe-big-chart/
Tilo,
Your chart is amazing!!!
If your Photoshop file contains vector information (shapes and text) and you are placing the file into InDesign, you need to be aware of the file format. If you place a .PSD file, like normal, the vector elements will rasterize. If you save your Photoshop file as a Photoshop PDF, the vector elements stay vector.
Illustrator Smart Objects are still rasterized when output; they don’t count as vector objects.
(I have not checked to see if CC “fixed” the PSD rasteration issue, but I suspect not.)
Thanks David. I’ve got that info scheduled for another article.
But no, it hasn’t changed in CC.
But the weird thing is if you output directly from PSD, that vector/text info stays as vectors. It’s only when placed into ID that the vectors get lost.
So it’s not a Photoshop problem, it’s up to ID to handle the vectors properly.
Correct–rastering in ID is ID’s problem–and a dumb one at that! As least saving as Photoshop PDF solves it.
Not keeping Smart Object AI vectors as vectors is Photoshop’s problem–and a dumb one at that! The only solution I know of is to reverse the workflow: place the PSD file into AI.
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What happens when you have linked tifs or jpeg in an Illustrator file so you can have vector art with it, and ultimately link that Illustrator file into InDesign— I know you probably need to collect the Illustrator file separately along with the InDesign collected file. But how do the linked files in the Illustrator file work in Indesign when enlarging? If the linked files in illustrator has more than 300 ppi resolution, if you enlarge the entire .ai file in InDesign does it convert it?