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August 2, 2010 at 11:29 pm in reply to: InDesign CS5 Question: Finding a text in locked text frame #53468
Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberWow, I can see how this new behavior would really mess up your workflow. I'm not sure though how quickly Adobe can turn around a feature request like you suggest (lock position or position & content). Perhaps if you posted this to the InDesign scripting forum, someone might know of a script or could build one for your company at a low cost that would at least unlock these items for you?
https://forums.adobe.com/commun….._scripting
In my CS5, the Find in Locked Stories isn't working. I get an alert, “The found object was locked or on a locked layer.” and that's it. It doesn't highlight the word or tell me which frame it's in (and the open-story-editor trick doesn't work). Is this just my wonky copy?
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberGreg shared the files w/me in Dropbox, and Greg, I figured out the problem. I didn't fix the INDD file you shared with me, Greg, since I didn't open it in CS3, but it's an easy fix.
The problem is that Hyphenation was disabled for the Address_Information paragraph style, and the line that caused the overset contained a word too long to fit in the narrow column. The line was “Manager, PriceWaterhouseCoopers”.
If you add a discretionary hyphen — from the Type > Insert Special Character menu — between Waterhouse and Coopers, to both lines (there are two instances in a row here) then the rest of the text will flow through the document. Or make the columns wider (smaller gutter/margins), or change “Manager” to “Mgr.” or turn on hyphenation for those paragraphs or whatever.
Usually, InDesign will break a too-long word that's not in its dictionary with a best guess … but it can only do this if Hyphenation is enabled for that paragraph.
Thanks, that detective work is always fun!
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberGood tips, I'm adding them to my arsenal of “How to Tame Word Files” techniques. ;-) That webinar recording is available, btw, here: https://tameword.eventbrite.com/
When you import the file you should choose No Breaks from the Manual Page Breaks menu in the MS Word Import Options dialog box. That way ID will strip them on import.
Sounds like Page breaks/Keep With settings are the culprit. If you weren't sure, I would also suggest copying the Word text from page 3 to the end, pasting it into a new Word doc, and seeing if ID will import that. There may be some corruption in the 2nd page of the Word doc.
And/or Maggying the file, as I explain in the webinar. (Copy all text in the Word except for the final carriage return, paste it into a new Word doc, place the new Word doc.)
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberExcellent!
I'd love to know how you plan to implement this, and more importantly, why. I've never encounted a company that used the Author metadata field before. What kind of a publication is it?
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberExcellent!
I'd love to know how you plan to implement this, and more importantly, why. I've never encounted a company that used the Author metadata field before. What kind of a publication is it?
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberI have not heard of that particular bug, I'm sorry. My educated guess is that it's a big leap from CS2 to CS5? Lots of pieces to convert, including things that went through fundamental changes esp. in CS4, like internal file structure.
Possible to open the CS2 files in CS3, save, then > CS4, save, then > CS5 (or at least CS2 to CS4, save, open in CS5)? See if that makes a diff. Weird that the IDML export/import isn't solving it. That would make me suspect a bad font or corrupted style or conflicting plugin, something like that.
See if you can replicate the problem on a pristine account on your computer, which removes all the stuff in your user account folder from the mix… and make sure no plug-ins (esp automatic font loaders) are muddying the waters. Create a new CS5 file and save it as a template, add new pages. For what it's worth I just created a new CS5 template, opened a new untitled doc from it and added 30 pages, not a peep.Tried it a few times, still nothing. I don't have any CS2 files handy to test though.
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberIf you were using InDesign CS4 or CS5, there's probably a way to do this with conditional text. (You can “pre-tag” the prices with the conditions before you import them.)
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberIf you use an InCopy/InDesign workflow, you can edit each story's metadata (including Author) in InCopy via File > File Info. Then, InDesign can show that in the Links panel … you can see there's an entry for Author there. You could even put Author into the Column section so you could sort by Author name. Like linked images, you can't edit the story's metadata from within InDesign, you have to do it in the external app.
It doesn't work with linked Word files, I guess because Word doesn't use the XMP standard. But InCopy can open/convert Word files, so there's an avenue.
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberCollywolly, you're a little confused I think. Changing the color of a layer doesn't change the color of the manually dragged ruler guides. It just changes the color of the non-printing frame edges and hidden characters on that layer. Jongware instructions are correct to change the color of ruler guides.
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberI have not heard of that particular bug, I'm sorry. My educated guess is that it's a big leap from CS2 to CS5? Lots of pieces to convert, including things that went through fundamental changes esp. in CS4, like internal file structure.
Possible to open the CS2 files in CS3, save, then > CS4, save, then > CS5 (or at least CS2 to CS4, save, open in CS5)? See if that makes a diff. Weird that the IDML export/import isn't solving it. That would make me suspect a bad font or corrupted style or conflicting plugin, something like that.
See if you can replicate the problem on a pristine account on your computer, which removes all the stuff in your user account folder from the mix… and make sure no plug-ins (esp automatic font loaders) are muddying the waters. Create a new CS5 file and save it as a template, add new pages. For what it's worth I just created a new CS5 template, opened a new untitled doc from it and added 30 pages, not a peep.Tried it a few times, still nothing. I don't have any CS2 files handy to test though.
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberIf you were using InDesign CS4 or CS5, there's probably a way to do this with conditional text. (You can “pre-tag” the prices with the conditions before you import them.)
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberIf you use an InCopy/InDesign workflow, you can edit each story's metadata (including Author) in InCopy via File > File Info. Then, InDesign can show that in the Links panel … you can see there's an entry for Author there. You could even put Author into the Column section so you could sort by Author name. Like linked images, you can't edit the story's metadata from within InDesign, you have to do it in the external app.
It doesn't work with linked Word files, I guess because Word doesn't use the XMP standard. But InCopy can open/convert Word files, so there's an avenue.
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberCollywolly, you're a little confused I think. Changing the color of a layer doesn't change the color of the manually dragged ruler guides. It just changes the color of the non-printing frame edges and hidden characters on that layer. Jongware instructions are correct to change the color of ruler guides.
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Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberWow this thread has enough tips for three or four blog posts. Thank you!
That is very cool about the “Select Code” button. I'm going to try it using the code tag method.
<Bender>Neat!</Bender>Anne-Marie ConcepcionMemberWow this thread has enough tips for three or four blog posts. Thank you!
That is very cool about the “Select Code” button. I'm going to try it using the code tag method.
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