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• • November 14, 2021 at 3:26 am #14350507
    GW GW

    Participant

    I’m experiencing a strange text effect when I insert a psd/png file in combination with a colored background. The text WITH the background is much sharper and bolder than WITHOUT background.

    When I remove the psd/png, the text is rendered fine. Also when I keep the psd/png and remove the background color, the text is fine.

    What makes the combination of a colored background and a psd/png the text rendered bad?

  • November 14, 2021 at 3:52 am #14350509
    Dieter Stockert

    Member

    Does it make a difference if you put the text frame on a new layer above the layer with the background?

  • November 14, 2021 at 3:57 am #14350510
    GW GW

    Participant

    No, not really. I put text on top of everything, rendering stays the same.

  • November 14, 2021 at 7:54 am #14350511
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    It may just have to do with the anti-aliasing algorithms that get used. This article talks about the various text anti-aliasing options in Photoshop, and was written 20 years ago, but it’s still pretty relevant:

    The Creative Toolbox: Tweaking Photoshop Type for the Web

  • November 15, 2021 at 4:19 am #14350521
    GW GW

    Participant

    This issue is about Indesign. Could not find relevant information about the issue in this text. Or am I missing something?

  • November 15, 2021 at 8:09 am #14350527
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Oh, maybe I misunderstood… is the text inside the image? Or is it InDesign vector text that you’re putting an image under?

  • November 20, 2021 at 7:30 am #14350626
    GW GW

    Participant

    Example</img>

    Here I have a screenshot of what I mean. As you can see, text without background is normal. With background is bolder and sharper. But only when there is a png/psd on the page.

    • November 20, 2021 at 7:37 am #14350629
      GW GW

      Participant

      Hope you know what this issue is, because I really want to add an image to this page.

  • November 20, 2021 at 9:12 am #14350631
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Very strange! Is the image above the text frame? Or below it? (In the layers panel… or in object > arrange )
    Do you have View > Display Performance > High Quality Display enabled?

  • November 21, 2021 at 12:48 am #14350635
    GW GW

    Participant

    In this example the text layer is on top of everything. It doesn’t make a difference when I rearrange items. Only when I remove the image the text is normal again. Or when I move the background, the text without the background is normal.

  • November 22, 2021 at 8:26 am #14350642
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    If you export as a PDF, does it look correct?
    To me it seems like a screen display problem. Did you try “High Quality Display”?

  • November 25, 2021 at 11:33 pm #14350837
    GW GW

    Participant

    Yes, in the screenshot ‘High Quality Display’ is on and in the pdf the results are the same.

  • November 26, 2021 at 5:36 am #14350857
    James Dempsey

    Participant

    This sounds like it’s a transparency flattener issue. First, make sure you’re saving as a version 7 or higher PDF. Also, make sure the PSD/PNG image is set as the same color space as the color background. When you mix RGB and CMYK, the rendering engine has to rasterize the text that overlaps with the image and background – which is difficult enough, but even more difficult when the color spaces don’t match.

  • November 26, 2021 at 8:06 am #14350879
    GW GW

    Participant

    Ok. I understand what you are saying. But I don’t know how to check and set the same color spaces on both. When I check color settings (Edit > …), in Indesign and Photoshop these settings are the same.

    Or do I have to set something in the output section when exporting a pdf?

    I have used a png/psd file before in a Indesign document and never had this issue.

  • November 30, 2021 at 4:49 am #14351082
    GW GW

    Participant

    I think I will just remove the image to make this work. I don’t know how to solve this and it has cost me too much time. Thanks for helping me, although we didn’t find a solution.

  • December 14, 2021 at 2:56 am #14351798
    GW GW

    Participant

    Anyone have an idea?

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