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• • June 11, 2012 at 9:46 pm #62391
    barncat

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    I was messing around, setting up my new epub file, experimenting with the uses of the object export rasterization tool. I found a number of things that did NOT work for me today, but the most frustrating thing was that pages I had forced rasterization on – the ones that did NOT work in the flow and that I subsequently deleted keep showing up in the epub when I export. I can't see any trace of them in the inDesign file. But in the epub, they show up, coming back to haunt me. I assume, then, that when the objext export does the rasterization, it sets up a separate copy of the data and stores it somewhere. If you delete the rasterized image or page without unchecking the rasterize option, evidently the cache is not cleared and the data continues to be included in the export?

    I wrestled with several pages in the beginning – I'd throw away the pages, but new pages would spring into being with the same data on them. I had inserted new pages and copied the same content from a fresh file into those new pages, but the exports then showed the new content either before or after the ghosts of the “deleted” pages. It was a nightmare. I finally learned to I learned to select the offending page with the select tool, then use the text tool and delete the contents a bit at a time.

    But I have three pages that just won't go away. I have deleted pages, made new pages with pasted content – I've deleted half my book trying to get rid of those rasterized images. They do not show up in the mobi file, only in the epub. I've opened the content files in Text Wrangler and searched for the errant data – one full page image and two full page text rastorizations, but I can't find them in the content files. I found the image in the image file and deleted it. Thought I had done something brilliant. I did the conversion again (knowing that deleting the image from the image file on one conversion wasn't going to make it go away on another) and, of course, there was the image in the new epub file. But when I opened THAT epub and examined the contents – the image was no longer in the image file. But it was STILL SHOWING UP in in Digital Editions.

    I have explained this badly, but I've been fighting it for four hours and I am going to bed now. Has this happened to anybody else?

  • June 12, 2012 at 2:49 am #62395
    Anonymous

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    Only suggestion I have is to make sure when you have placed an object – it's not removed completely by just deleting it from the page. It's at least a two-stage process – check by clicking back on the history of that placement – get beyond the 'import' stage. Placed files are not removed easily – get back to the stage you were at before you even began to think about placing that file.

  • June 12, 2012 at 6:50 am #62397
    barncat

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    These aren't placed files. They're pages I chose to rasterize on export. Well, there is one placed one. I have deleted placed files without any problem, actually. No artifacts. This is driving me crazy – I'm sure in my heart there's a buffer somewhere where these things are held waiting. I thought maybe restarting the computer or just the program would clear it. Not true. Thank you so much for your response, by the way. People are so kind when they reply at all –

  • June 12, 2012 at 3:39 pm #62401
    barncat

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    Yipee! I can't believe how slow thinking I am. but I'm very happy to share my stupidity, as I suspect I'm not rare. Anyway – these pages – it didn't really have anything to do with the rastorization – except that it wasn't working well, and I decided to get rid of it. And in getting rid of it, I simply dumped the pages these images were filling. See how stupid? When you toss pages without dealing with the content first, you get overset text. I didn't notice it, because there's a place in my front matter than always registers as an error – even though the text is all visible. But after starting fresh files and copying pages one at a time, and then exporting to see if I was getting the error still, I actually began to SEE the overlaid text. Five hours of suffering, and I finally saw the double text. And then chased down the overlaid text error. I had to insert new pages and dump the text on them (at one point, I had done that, over and over, and every time I had shift clicked to dump the overlaid text, I got empty text boxes – it was very confusing).

    At this point, I was finally smart enough not to dump the pages, and not to delete the text boxes either – which does not solve the problem. I had to go in with the text tool and deal with the text, selecting and deleting – I had a problem with a page break character that would not go – then the frame still wanted me to believe there was overlaid text – even after it was all gone. So I went through the process again, and this time, deleted the empty text frame. And FINALLY – FREEDOM!! It felt fabulous – ten hours of slogging ignorantly around, but I finally solved it myself. And maybe someone else out there will find themselves with the same mess. Maybe this will help.

  • June 15, 2012 at 4:10 pm #62439
    Allen Cobb

    Member

    barncat said:

    … I'm very happy to share my stupidity, as I suspect I'm not rare.

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    You're not! See my own similar shared stupidity here: https://creativepro.com/for…..ges/#p6651

    It's an easy mistake to make in InDesign.

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