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• • September 17, 2012 at 2:42 am #63170
    Katie Beard

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    When I export some files to pdf from CS5 odd elements move around. For example I am creating a book with running heads which are on the master pages but when I pdf the running heads move on some pages and appear in the wrong place. Some files with two columns are reflowing and some files just have random elements that move. I have layout adjustment switched off and am using export standard pdfx1a.

    I have been tracking some queries similar to my own but has anyone found a solution yet?

  • September 17, 2012 at 5:44 am #63171
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Wow, that is very weird. I would try different PDF export presets (like try pdf/x3 or pdf/x4?) just to see if that changes anything. Try rebuilding your InDesign preferences. Try exporting from a different account on your computer, or a different computer. This can help you identify why something is going wrong.

  • September 17, 2012 at 6:10 am #63172
    Katie Beard

    Member

    Hi David.

    The elements don't move when I use pdf/x4, and I thought that was the answer but our printers require pdf/x1a as any other settings override the flattener presets and we get issues with transparencies. I have a team using 13 different macs and it seems to affect all of them. The documents were all templates created in CS4 where the pdf worked fine, but re-creating them in CS5 hasn't helped. I haven't rebuilt the prefs yet though, so I will see if that makes a difference. The only other way round it that I have found is to put the job through distiller.

  • September 17, 2012 at 6:24 am #63174
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Maybe try exporting as pdf/x4 and then using Acrobat Pro to convert to PDF/x1a.

    Obviously, it shouldn't work this way, so you shouldn't have to use workarounds.

    Another option: Try exporting the file as IDML, then open the idml file, then try exporting to pdf from this new version. Maybe it's some weird document corruption?

  • September 18, 2012 at 4:25 am #63177
    Katie Beard

    Member

    OK have ditched prefs and also saved as idml but still the same problem.

    I opened the idml in CS4 too just to see, and it pdf'd fine, just goes wrong in CS5. Will keep trying…

  • September 18, 2012 at 4:29 am #63178
    Katie Beard

    Member

    sorry, forgot to ask – how do I convert pdfx4 to pdf x1a in ACrobat pro please? thanks.

  • September 21, 2012 at 8:36 am #63196
    Rebecca Evans

    Member

    I've found the jumping-text-frame problem often is caused by a text frame or graphic being close to the edge of the page. That can include slug area text frames, page number text frames, page outline graphics, and background images or tints that touch the spine or page edge.

    Here are some things that helped me at various times:

    * Adjust all text frames so they are farther away from the page edges.

    * Resize my (temporary) page outlines so they are a 1/2-point away from the outside page edge, or delete them.

    * Change the top/bottom/left/right bleeds to zero—of course this doesn't help for final output, just for preliminary proofs.

    * Set the pdf to “Use Document Bleeds Settings: On” rather than defining the bleed using the pdf output window's left/right/top/bottom options.

    I had one book where I could output all pages with no problem, but if I select a range of pages like: “83, 86, 112-114, 256, 389,” the running feet were all over the place. Some were properly positioned, some were in the middle of the page, some were falling off the left or right side of the page, and some are so far off they were missing entirely.

    I have CS6 now but haven't used it long enough to know whether this problem persists.

  • September 22, 2012 at 12:52 am #63201
    Uwe Laubender

    Member

    Another solution:
    If you want PDF/X-1a as output format, you can go the Print-To-PostScript-Distill-To-PDF route.
    Then the shifting of elements will *not* happen!

    Uwe

  • September 26, 2012 at 8:49 am #63255
    Katie Beard

    Member

    Thanks for all the suggestions, sadly none of them worked for me (apart from Distiller), HOWEVER a colleage deleted a set of master pages that weren't being used, and lo – nothing moved on the pdf!. Trying this with a few other docs to see if is a fix.

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