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• • June 25, 2014 at 1:46 am #69142
    Rivkah Lewis

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    I’m working with Hebrew and when I turn on the Adobe World Ready Paragraph Composer everything is great in terms of the right to left text direction… except that all the punctuation in wrong. The periods end up at the beginning of the sentence instead of the end. Same for exclamation points and question marks. Is there a way to fix this?

    Thanks!

  • June 25, 2014 at 5:27 am #69144
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    World Ready Paragraph Composer isn’t enough, unfortunately. See this article:
    https://creativepro.com/typesetting-hebrew-and-other-languages-in-english-indesign.php

  • June 25, 2014 at 10:39 am #69149
    Rivkah Lewis

    Member

    Thanks, David.
    Someone once mentioned to me that there are certain Hebrew fonts that work correctly with World Ready Composer.
    Do you know anything about this?

    I have CS4 ME… I just don’t like working in it :) Feels so old when you’re used to the newer versions.

  • June 26, 2014 at 5:10 am #69159
    Chris Thompson

    Member

    Is it possible that the directionality of the punctuation is set wrong? There’s a character-level setting for LTR/RTL/default direction which can have all kinds of confusing effects with punctuation and numbers. Opening and closing brackets are my bugbear.
    Regards,
    Chris

  • June 29, 2014 at 1:14 am #69184
    Rivkah Lewis

    Member

    Is set wrong where, Chris?

    What’s the difference between Scribedoor and World Tools?

    • June 29, 2014 at 2:40 am #69185
      Chris Thompson

      Member

      In the Scribedoor panel, it’s Character – Direction – Default/LTR/RTL
      In CS6 ME version, it’s a menu item in the flyout menu from the top right of the Character panel, Character Direction – Default/LTR/RTL
      Can’t speak for World Tools.
      But in all of them, it’s a character-level attribute.

      If you have all text set to RTL, some of the ‘ambiguous’ characters like brackets may behave wrong if they are next to LTR segments like numbers. If you have all text set to Default, the para composer tries to work out if it’s a closing bracket (for example) on a RTL or LTR segment of text.

      Only a theory.

      Another theory: is ‘paragraph direction’ is also set to RTL?
      If you have paragraph direction set to LTR, but right-aligned, the punctuation also goes wrong.

      Chris.

  • June 29, 2014 at 2:58 am #69186
    Rivkah Lewis

    Member

    I’m working in the regular version with no plugins.
    I have an old ME version, but I was trying to make it work in regular CS6.
    Seems I’ll need a plugin in order for the punctuation to work, or I’ll have to do the project in ME CS4.

    I was wondering in general what the differences are between Scribedoor and World Tools if I’m considering getting one.

    • June 29, 2014 at 3:10 am #69187
      Chris Thompson

      Member

      I think I went for Scribedoor purely on price, back around CS4. There’s a thread on here somewhere outlining the differences, but I can’t find it at the moment.

      But if you have CS6, check if you can download CS6 ME version from the Adobe download centre under your licence. I could, although it did replace the standard version – no big deal, other than the defaults for a new file will be for RTL.

      Good luck, Chris.

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