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    • #101957
      Tyler Miller
      Member

      Hi there, I am making a hierarchical document where I have a Topic, a Topic Detail, and within the Topic Detail I may have bulleted lists or more small paragraphs of information. One problem I am having is trying to figure out how I can maintain the spacing between bulleted list items set to my standard leading, while adding whitespace above the bulleted list. I know I can select the first bulleted line (which indesign considers its own paragraph – I understand this) and set space above, but now I ruin the convnenience of having one paragraph style, now I have to have “first bullet item” and “the rest of the bullet items”. What is the best way to create visual whitespace above (or below) groups of paragraphs?

      Example – I have a paragraph followed by a nested bulleted list, and if I adjust space above it will apply it to all the bulleted lines since they are each considered a separate paragraph. I have wondered if it isn’t possible to add bullets to soft-return lines?….that could be a workaround but I am not sure how to do that?

      Hypothetical example of what I want to do with paragraph styles globally (and not have to select first line of each paragraph and apply a different style to it) (I am simulating wrapped text):

      _____________________________________________________________

      Paragraph of text, bla bla bla bla bla
      Uptatiam, sit lam esed quiatem aut arci
      restibus volenimusam qui am harcita temqui
      optatur audi at derum am ra nobis sundani.

      * Bullet 1
      * Bullet 2
      * Bullet 3

      * Bullet 4
      * Bullet 5
      * Bullet 6

      What I get instead:
      _____________________________________________________________

      Paragraph of text, bla bla bla bla bla
      Uptatiam, sit lam esed quiatem aut arci
      restibus volenimusam qui am harcita temqui
      optatur audi at derum am ra nobis sundani.

      * Bullet 1

      * Bullet 2

      * Bullet 3

      * Bullet 4

      * Bullet 5

      * Bullet 6

    • #101962
      David Blatner
      Keymaster

      Yes, this is a long-standing annoyance. You need to create 2 or 3 different paragraph styles. We all hope that Adobe will find a solution for this so we can use one style.

    • #101964
      Tyler Miller
      Member

      Thank you for your response! Bummer Adobe hasn’t done this yet.

    • #101965

      Let’s be honest. We can’t expect Adobe to be magicians.
      Three style sheets makes sense (one for above/one middle/one below).

    • #101974

      Why not set the bullet style with Span Column/Span All and define spacing before. For the next set of bullet that immediately follow – define a new style with Span Column set to 2 Column. You would only have two styles vs, three for each set. Not ideal, but a workaround.

    • #101980

      Hi,

      The true question I see is:

      How are defined the sets of bullet paras? always 3 paras or something less systematic?

      Best,
      Michel, from FRIdNGE
      michel.allio.fridnge@gmail.com

    • #102005
      David Blatner
      Keymaster

      As Janet pointed out, you can do this with spans, as shown here:
      https://creativepro.com/adding-space-above-below-lists-span-column.php

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