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Dwayne Harris
MemberHow much space do you have *total* for both inside and outside margins? What is the the page trim? What is the text column measure? How many pages are we talking? What kind of book?
And I don't think there's necessarily a calculator that will tell what you want to know because it depends upon the job and personal preference.
If it was a paperback and only a few hundred pages you could get by with 3/8″ inside. If a larger book (say 6 x 9) and 400 pages, you may want 1/2″ or 5/8″.
To me, there's a lot of variables and no real standard, so to speak. I'm sure you will get a lot of different opinions.
{edit: I hope I didn't come across as rude with all my questions at the beginning of my post. Just trying to ask for info}
MemberThanks colin. It does seem like a lot of work to use multipager and run the scripts and compare. It may be just plain old easier to print ou the PDFs and compare to the last ID printed file and flip through the pages.
I guess the powers-that-be (no offense to them) want some sort of “easy button.”
And I totally agree with you about supplying hard copy being so important.
I'll check out your method and do some testing.
doc
MemberThanks, Eugene. I'll chleck it out. Thanks for your help
{edit: actually–I don't even know what program I'm supposed to use to compare it with. It's not Acrobat comparing PDFs. It's gotta be Acrobat comparing to ID}
MemberEugene–you do understand what I'm talking about. :)
Is that faster and easier than just printing out the PDF and comparing to the printed copy of the InDesign file (i.e. flipping through it and checking page breaks)? To me, it seems it would take more time to compare the files and hover over stuff.
It seems that what is wanted is software that will compare the ID file and the PDF and tell us within seconds the difference (mainly page breaks).
It's an odd request–I know. And actually they're not requesting, but were told by someone about how they use it (although their PDFs and native files don't match half the time).
doc
January 27, 2010 at 11:23 am in reply to: Is there a Strikethrough and/or Paragraph Rules angle tweak? #51655MemberI agree with Eugene totally. The only solution I can think of is anchoring that rule.
MemberThanks, Eugeue. I'm aware of Acrobat comparing two documents, and I did read somewhere about the script you talked about (I can't find it either).
But to re-emphasize–they want to compare the actual line breaks or page breaks and make sure that the InDesign File and PDF match exactly (particularly when it comes to page breaks (i.e., first and last words on pages).
doc
MemberHow much space do you have *total* for both inside and outside margins? What is the the page trim? What is the text column measure? How many pages are we talking? What kind of book?
And I don't think there's necessarily a calculator that will tell what you want to know because it depends upon the job and personal preference.
If it was a paperback and only a few hundred pages you could get by with 3/8″ inside. If a larger book (say 6 x 9) and 400 pages, you may want 1/2″ or 5/8″.
To me, there's a lot of variables and no real standard, so to speak. I'm sure you will get a lot of different opinions.
{edit: I hope I didn't come across as rude with all my questions at the beginning of my post. Just trying to ask for info}
MemberI think I save my file every 10 seconds or so. I'm just so used to hitting “apple + s” all the time. And I do a save as about once an hour and duplicate a copy and put it in a safe place a ffew times a day.
I'm glad all worked out well, meanwhile. :)
MemberI think I save my file every 10 seconds or so. I'm just so used to hitting “apple + s” all the time. And I do a save as about once an hour and duplicate a copy and put it in a safe place a ffew times a day.
I'm glad all worked out well, meanwhile. :)
MemberI'm hoping you saved (or saved as ) the file during that twelve hour period regularly so you wouldn't lose more than 2 or 3 minutes of work.
As Eugene said–try to export as .inx.
MemberEugene–For book publishing we deal with 16s. And no more than four blanks at the end of the book.
Had one freelance deisgner who did a job and there were ten blanks at the end. We said you can't do that. He said, but there's six blanks due to chapters starting new right-hand pages. Just add 'em up.
It took a while to explain what even forms was.
MemberI'm hoping you saved (or saved as ) the file during that twelve hour period regularly so you wouldn't lose more than 2 or 3 minutes of work.
As Eugene said–try to export as .inx.
MemberEugene–For book publishing we deal with 16s. And no more than four blanks at the end of the book.
Had one freelance deisgner who did a job and there were ten blanks at the end. We said you can't do that. He said, but there's six blanks due to chapters starting new right-hand pages. Just add 'em up.
It took a while to explain what even forms was.
MemberSueKnopf–that was hilarious about the clients not wanting to pay for those blank pages. Priceless! :D :D :D :D
MemberWhat I've been noticing more and more is that many freelance designers (book publishing) don't seem to keep current with their software. And in all honesty, some publishing houses don't, either. I know of one client who only wants the jobs done in Quark 6 or CS2.
And in the past few years, I've had to do jobs where the designer *needed* the files back to *tweak* them. And because of that they had to be in the old software. One job was in Quark 3 and the other was in InDesign 2.0.
One would think that any decent designer would be within a version of the latest software, not 10 years behind.
Thankfully, my company keeps some older Macs around with OS9 and the older software around for such things.
The company I work for keeps current (we have to), and I keep current at home for when I freelance (or do OT at home). Hell, I have Quark 8 and I don't use it. But I got it because I have to keep current.
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