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Dwayne Harris
MemberGood luck. You can probably write a simple macro that will capture and tag things like italic and bold, small caps, superiors, etc.
MemberThanks for the explanations David, and Jongware. And I learned something new about the discretionary ligature thing. In the past, for those discretionary ligatures I was doing search and replaces.
MemberGlad to help :)
MemberIt sure is aggravating isn’t it, sunixx.
MemberWhat about a second nested style for the first space? You could have that second style be tracked (say 200 or something). It wouldn’t be two spaces, but instead it would be a tracked single space (to equal the width of two space bands).
You could do:
Bold Italic character style through 1 colon
Tracking character style through 1 space
None after that.MemberI just wish InDesign wouldn’t change the window size on documents I already have open. Since I don’t use the tab feature, I have a few open documents staggered behind the others. When I go to look at one of them again, it’s suddenly a different size. Width is the same, but the depth is suddenly 1/4th of the size. Aggravating.
MemberSo far as I know, InDesign doesn’t give you true ligatures. It just makes them appear as ligatures. True ligatures are a single character, the ligatures that InDesign makes are two characters. InDesign just makes them look like ligatures. And some combinations InDesign either doesn’t recognize or doesn’t do.
For true ligatures, you’d have to do search and replaces.
And I’m not sure if it’s still true or not so far as InDesign, but back in the Quark days, true ligatures (the keystroke) would not come through if the file was opened on a PC (we used Macs).
So far as the appearance of ligatures, I remember we had one client who was fine with how they appeared, but when using Minion Pro (I think), they did not want the “Th” ligature. So we had to do a search and replace and uncheck the ligature for that combination. We used a character style for that.
MemberI think all that will do is export the stuff that is wrong. It’s still going to flow in originaly and you’re going to have that bold stuff from the Word file.
I’m thinking the problem was due to downsaving. It’s also possible that different fonts were used in the Word file. I know I’ve received Word files where Calibri is used, as well as Times, Courier, etc. And sometimes they use character styles. Sometimes those combinations wreak havoc when I run my macros.
I usually don’t import Word files into InDesign. We run macros to capture the italic, bold, small caps, superiors, etc., and tag it. Then we save as a .txt file and import that.
MemberThat is very odd, Monsetta. I can clearly see it in the PDF, but it doesn’t appear in the ID file.
MemberWord files can be a pain. Were the items bold in the Word file, or were they all just regular roman? I know that sometimes authors and editors do crazy stuff in Word files, and I usually have to scroll through the whole thing to check on things. Underscored, bold, or italic punctuation is not uncommon.
Sometimes things can go buggy when downsaving from .docx to .doc.
I’m not sure about downsaving to .rtf. I had some issues a while back with saving as rtf files (though in that instance I was saving an InDesign file as .rtf for a client). We had basically done keystrokes for them using xTags. We flowed the file into an ID file, and then saved as .rtf so the designer could flow the file in. For some reason, the rtf file was over-riding ID’s style sheets so far as spacing and leading and stuff). So I’ve kept away from .rtf personally.
But you might not have a problem saving directly from word to .rtf, though it’s possible some things could change. I guess you’ll need to experiment.
MemberI know there was a similiar post but it was about a plug-in for recipes. The poster determined it was a problem with the plug-in.
Perhaps it’s a plug-in issue with you as well (I’m taking it you are using a math one).
MemberI’m glad you got it working. I always sink heads for even lines. Many times I’ll have a head with a line and a half space above and a half line below. So I have to sink it a half line. The head won’t align with the first text line on the opposite page, but the text afterwards will.
MemberHere’s what you can do. Go to the first instance of the head that falls at the top of the page. For the text under it, temporarily tell it not to align to baseline grid. Now to manually apply a one point rule of “none” above the head. Be sure that “keep in frame” is checked. Adjust your offset of the rule above until the head sinks and the text aligns properly. You will want to have “preview” checked so you can see your progress.
Once it aligns properly, redefine your style sheet so all those heads will have that rule and offset. And go ahead and tell that paragraph to align to baseline grid again.
I work in picas and points so I’m not sure what mm is in relation to points. But be sure that when the head is in the middle of text that the rule above doesn’t cut off the descenders of the text above (it probably won’t).
Another thing I’ve seen designers do (which I never do) is to create a separate master page for heads that fall at the bottom of the page. They base it on the main text master page, but adjust the top margin so the head sinks lower.
MemberI’d have the same issue, Rivkah. Some pages would be fine. The majority, though, were wrong (sometimes even in the same chapter). And I would have other chapters that would be perfectly okay. Maybe something to do with whether the chapter opener started on a left or right page?
MemberI’m glad your problem is solved. As a note–I’ve been using InDesign since 1.5, and when the running head variables came out (I forget which version) I noticed the problem. But what I was getting was the space would go to the end of the runninghead. I was wondering how I was getting an extra space between the running head and the folio, and figured out it was the soft return.
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