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October 24, 2016 at 2:58 pm in reply to: Mapping MS Word styles to InDesign styles in style groups #89297
Dwayne Harris
MemberI don’t think there is, though I’m not 100 percent positive of it.
I personally hate it when designers give me an ID file with the stylesheets within style folders. I use xTags and and it doesn’t play well with those folders (or I’m doing something wrong).
I only use Word as a necessary evil, so I don’t know if you can do anything within Word to fix your problem–but I’m guessing no as Word is pretty much a word procesing program. Maybe something could be done via macros?
Dwayne Harris
MemberNot that I know of, sorry.
Dwayne Harris
MemberAre they postscript fonts or open type fonts?
If postscript, you need to be sure you have both the screen fonts as well as the printer fonts.
October 21, 2016 at 8:02 am in reply to: How to avoid coloring bullet when I color the first word in the beginning of…. #89242Dwayne Harris
MemberYou need to create a character style for your bullet. Make it’s the font you want and also make the color black. Then in your paragraph style, select that character style in your bulleted list dialogue box.
I always have to do this, because sometimes a word after a bullet is italic, and the bullet comes out italic. Or once, I had a superior number after it, and the bullet came out superior.
That’s why you need a character style for the bullet.
Dwayne Harris
MemberKarin–
You need to host the picture somewhere (i.e., 4share, drop box, etc. and then post the link.
Dwayne Harris
MemberWhat isn’t working? Can you be more specific? Is it not lauching? Crashing? Not able to print?
Dwayne Harris
MemberSeems I was composing a post when you were posting, Shane.
Hopefully you will see it.
Dwayne Harris
MemberI’ve seen the same problem (though not too often).
You may want to try is changing your bleed settings. I’m in book publishing, and I set it up so the bleeds are top, bottom, and outside. I have zero for inside. I don’t know what the printer folks like, but it doesn’t matter. We use their PDF settings and it automatically adds the bleed for all (top, bottom, inside, and outside). That usually fixes it.
I think InDesign overrides the right-hand master page art box because of the left-hand side inside bleed (which has nothing on it).
But if that doesn’t work–I have resorted to making my master page spread “unorthodox.”
By that I mean, I will make a CL (chapter opener left page). The left-hand page of the master is the opener with the art, and the right is a regular text page.
Then I will do the same with CR (chapter opener right page). The right-hand page of the master is the opener with the art and the left is a regular text page.
Then I apply the master page spread to the actual page spread. That also works.
It seems that doing it the normal way (as you definitely are), that Indesign ignores the picture box on the right because it’s touching the text master page. And the left-hand page has an inside bleed.
I don’t think you are applying the master to both spreads as you say it only happens on on right-hand side pages, but double-check as David suggests.
As an aside—are you applying the right-hand side master page by dragging down a master page on top of the required page, or option + clicking?
InDesign can definitely do weird things at times.
Dwayne Harris
MemberIf you have a head following another head, then yes–you need to create a separate style sheet. InDesign will add the space below the one head and the space above the second head. In that case, you create a second style sheet for the second head and remove the space above.
And if you have a paragraph or bulleted list with space below it, followed by a head, then you either need to create a different style sheet for the bulleted list with no space below, or a different head style sheet with one less line space.
I’m not too familiar with Framemaker, as it’s been years since I had to use it for a few jobs. But I found it clunky and aggravating. But different style sheets was necessary back in the Quark days, and before that–in the Penta and Sun Miles system. It’s not something new.
I personally don’t find it daunting or sloppy because I’ve been used to it for 25+ years. I can see, however, how someone not used to it could find it that way though.
I don’t know if InDesign could change things so that those spaces were added together, but that may be opening up a whole new can of worms.
Dwayne Harris
MemberAny chance when the art was created that there is stuff on the art pasteboard that uses those colors? Or a layer that was no longer used (and is hidden)?
Dwayne Harris
MemberThat is definitely weird. Does the art on the text master page bleed off the page in either direction (even just part of the image box)?
I had that problem once and could never figure it out, so I ended up creating additional master pages in an unorthodox way.
For example:
On my new master page, on the left hand side I set it up as the chapter opener, and the right hand side was regular text.
On a second new master page, on the left hand side I set it up as the regular text, and the right hand side as the chapter opener.
Then I applied as a spread to the affected pages when I came across them. For some reason it worked.
To me, it sounds like InDesign is getting lost when it comes to that RH side when facing the chapter opener. (which was also the case in the job I mentioned).
Dwayne Harris
Member^^That’s true. And, many characters have a “shoulder” on them, which can give slightly more space.
Dwayne Harris
MemberThat’s what I do as well, Gert. And since we use Xtags, we then save the Word file as a .txt file and import it that way. I also have a macro for the text file.
To no one in particular:
Nine times out of ten our clients tag the the files with codes such as <TX> <CT> <CN> etc. So the macros grab all that stuff, but the styles needed, and we then save as a text file and import it through xTags.
Other times the manuscript is so messy we have to have to it keyed/typed by our keyboarders. We mark it up with the pargraph styles we want and use Quark XPress marking-up. It’s so much easier than trying to mark up using InDesigns markup language. For example, they can just type “@TX:” for a text paragraph, instead of <para:text>; or an <I> for italic, instead of <charstyle:italic>. That sort of stuff. It saves us a lot of money as the keyboarders charge by the keystroke.
And to me Word files are pain in the butt. Nine times out of ten, all the styling is “normal” and tweaked by hand in Word. That is useless to me. There is no way I have time to click on paragraphs and apply the appropriate paragraph style. I don’t have the time with the crazy deadlines I face.
I need files tagged so I can import and begin paging right away. Sometimes I only have a day to get a 400 page book out.
Dwayne Harris
MemberI also search and replace on my character styles. For example–italic. I’ll search for all the italics in the job and replace with an italic character style. Same thing with bold, small caps, superiors, etc. If you have character styles applied within paragrahs, even if you override local formatting, those won’t be affected.
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