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  • in reply to: Created a 212 page book as "document" vs. "book" #95586

    I’d personally keep it one document.

    in reply to: Placing a Word docx file #95585

    Sean

    My first thought was it was a characters style, but you didn’t see your post unti I got home from work and you’d already solved it. Congratulations.

    So far as the chapter opening page and the sink–there are two easy ways:

    1) Create a master page for the chapter opening pages and adjust the top margin for where you want the sink to be.

    2) Use a rule above (make the color none). Make it one point, and check the box that says to keep in text frame. Then adjust the offset until it reaches the alignment/sink you want.

    In either of those cases, you need to tell the chapter title to start a new odd page in the paragraph style sheet.

    in reply to: MS Word to InDesign best practices for novels #95560

    Sean

    You can definitely capture the styles in Word (and the italic and bold and stuff). But not capturing new rights or blanks and stuff like that). Basically–you can import the basics into InDesign. You can import the paragraph and character styles, but that’s about as far as it goes.

    You will still write your InDesign style sheets so they come in correctly. And the InDesign paragraph style sheets will have the stuff like chapters start odd pages, or drop caps for the first paragraph. But that has to be written into the InDesign style sheets–not the Word ones. I don’t know of a way to create blanks via Word.

    And besides–your layout in Word will not match InDesign’s layout.

    I personally wrote macros and use xTags (and save Word files as .txt files). I rarely import regular Word files as I find they are more trouble than they are worth, and macros can clean up that stuff in Word saves more time than trying to fix afterwards in InDesign.

    Good luck–If you’re mainly doing novels, then definitely set up a template in InDesign. And use the same style sheet names in both Word and InDesign. It should map properly. But be careful of ellipses coming in wrong, or single/double quote combinations which can come in screwed up. But it’s stuff you will see and get used to (which you can fix via search and replaces) (or a macro).

    But basically–you want the Word paragraph and character styles to match your InDesign paragraph and character styles. But–your InDesign styles are the rule that is followed. When you import, you want InDesign’s styles to be used–not Word’s. So set up you InDesign styles for what you want and ignore Word’s styles. The important thing is they have the same name and the Word file flows in using InDesign’s styles (not vice versa).

    I am probably rambling.

    in reply to: MS Word to InDesign best practices for novels #95558

    I agree with David about not copying and pasting, but instead using the “place” feature. So far as the other stuff:

    Unless there are scripts out there, I don’t know if you can automate some of the stuff you want.

    Your InDesign paragraph style sheet can control whether a chapter starts a new page or an odd page. That has to be done in InDesign. But you need a separate master page and you can’t tell Word how to do that. You have to apply the master page in InDesign.

    You InDesign paragraph style sheet can add the drop cap, but that has to be done in InDesign.

    For blank pages—you have to do that it in InDesign.

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    In my workflow—I run macros to capture the italic, bold, small caps, superiors, etc.

    Then I search and replace on the Word paragraph style sheets and have my InDesign paragraph style tag put into place.

    Then I save as a .txt file and import via xTags.

    xTags could do what you want so far as chapters starting new rights and the appropriate master page, but it’s expensive and requires a lot of tagging ahead of time.

    Sounds to me like you want a magic way to automatically flow into Indesign with an “Easy” button or something. Please don’t take that the wrong way. But Word is a word processing program, and InDesign is for page layout. It’s not so simple to automate. There’s always a lot of work involved.

    Maybe some script writers will chime in if they know of scripts to make things easier.

    in reply to: Problem when merging multiple documents #95555

    I know lot of folks use and like the book feature in Indesign. I also think it’s a great feature, as I hate having one huge document.

    But many of the big publishers don’t want us to use the book feature. They want and insist on a single large document (all text threaded).

    This makes it a royal pain in the butt when they outsource to someone else and only chapters are threaded (so we have to rethread the entire document). Or when we are given 20 files and have to make them into one.

    And they insist ONE document.

    Even worse is when they buy the rights to a book (either done in Spain, UK, Australia, or somewhere) and there are no style sheets written or master pages (i.e., all running heads done by hand). We have to recreate the files and write the style sheets and make master pages. And make one document.

    And all this has to be done in two days.

    Sorry for ranting.

    in reply to: Problem when merging multiple documents #95543

    Ari–Not sure about the OP’s situation but the book publishers my company deals with wants one document–no book feature.

    in reply to: Problem when merging multiple documents #95541

    Try clicking on the second chapter opener and uncheck the section start.

    in reply to: Typesetting style question #95533

    Thanks, Kai. Good to know about the ePub thing.

    in reply to: Dictionary-Style running headers – standard practice? #95501

    Jim

    I’m glad you got it figured out. I was thinking this morning that the character style must have been applied somewhere else, and thus canceling out the running heads.

    Sometimes it’s good to step back or look at something later when your mind is fresh.

    Glad you got it figured out.

    in reply to: Dictionary-Style running headers – standard practice? #95497

    Normally so. But let’s say you have three pages of just type (no dictionary words) on that page, then those three pages would have whatever last word was used. Which it should automatically do.

    in reply to: Dictionary-Style running headers – standard practice? #95493

    Jim–you’re probably right–do the manual thing (unless it’s going eBook later on–as it’s a no-no for that thing).

    Not sure why InDesign is behaving this way. It sounds like it’s been set up correctly.

    I’m at a loss at this time.

    in reply to: Dictionary-Style running headers – standard practice? #95491

    That’s a good thing that the character style was manually applied. I had a job several years ago when the first entry was not properly in the running head. It was because it was nested. I had to search and replace and apply the character style. Glad you did it that way as it avoided me a ton of typing to tell you to do that.

    I totally understand about sharing files from the company. My company would definitely say no, unless I supplied the file, but used nonsense text instead of real text.

    in reply to: Typesetting style question #95489

    Well–what happens is we have our InDesign files converted to eBooks by the publishers. Which is a pain because they expect us to set up the jobs like it’s an eBook even though we’re in print. Can’t use soft returns anywhere in the job, each and every item must have a style sheet (can’t add space above a paragraph manually–but instead must create a style with the space above).

    Heck–there were complaints because I used a rule of “none” above heads so they’d automatically sink at the top of the page for even lines. And on copyright pages, we can’t have space after in the style sheet as it may cause a blank page.

    It’s freaking nuts.

    in reply to: Dictionary-Style running headers – standard practice? #95488

    Hey Jim–I’m taking it that the character style is nested. Can you confirm that?

    If so, are any other paragraphs based upon that one? And have the “nested” feature in that as well?

    I know that many people and companies don’t like or want files being looked at by outsiders, if you could send me a few pages of it (where the problem occurs), I can look at it. If you’re not allowed to, we can try to figure it out here.

    Post back and if you want my email address I can give it to you here.

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