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David BlatnerAnnette: Yes, I believe that Adobe switched over a couple of versions ago to using all Lab, whether or not that checkbox is turned on. I don’t have the official word on that, but it seems to be the case. So that checkbox is kind of like an appendix that doesn’t really mean anything anymore.
I feel your pain, but I don’t think there is any better workflow. The lab conversion tables are supplied by Pantone to Adobe. Adobe doesn’t make them up! If your RIP does it differently, then perhaps they are not using the official Pantone conversion tables.
Another possibility is that the CMYK values are being changed between InDesign and the RIP… this would be rare, but for example, if you export a PDF from InDesign (or print) with the Convert to Destination setting (instead of “Convert to Destination (Preserve Numbers)” which is what people should normally use), then the CMYK values in ID will change to something else… called “cross-rendering the CMYK.” I doubt that you’re doing that, but I figured I should mention it.
David BlatnerAnnette: Why not just make your own CMYK color swatch and call it Pantone 364 C ?
David BlatnerYou can strip out all formatting when copying from one InDesign document to another by choosing Edit > Paste Without Formatting
https://creativepro.com/pasting-formatted-text-into-indesign.php
There’s no way to strip out some formatting and leave other formatting, though.
David BlatnerThe problem, especially with vertical alignment, is that it has more to do with how it looks than any kind of mathematical or algorithmic rule. Type is all about how it appears, not what it is.
David BlatnerNo, there are three different versions of the app: CS6, CC, and CC 2014. They can all live on the same computer simultaneously.
David BlatnerYou must have saved it in InDesign 10.0 at some point, which is the June release of InDesign CC (also called the 2014 release of InDesign CC).
David BlatnerThat is strange! I believe Gluon was purchased by Quark a year or two ago. I suggest contacting them. If you get an answer, please come back and let us know what you found, in case others have the same question.
David BlatnerDo you mean vertical centering (space above/below) text, or horizontal (space to left and right)?
Vertical centering is a tricky thing because different fonts appear differently, especially if it’s upper and lower case. It usually has to be handled visually.
David BlatnerTrue, they would have to be “manual,” but you could do it semi-automatically by importing a list of numbers in frames that are linked… kind of like:
https://creativepro.com/making-numbered-tickets.php
or
https://creativepro.com/creating-sequential-numbers-data-merge-script.php
David BlatnerI would check to see if the CMYK values are correct in the PDF. Just because something looks a certain way on screen doesn’t mean that it will look that way in print. For example, if the client made a PDF in word based on RGB colors, then the printer may have converted that to CMYK using one method that kept it yellowing. However, if you converted it to CMYK in InDesign (when you made your PDF, for example), then that same RGB could have changed to a different CMYK (perhaps with more cyan, making it greenish).
David BlatnerThat’s awesome about your 100th reply, Masood! Thanks for all your help.
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