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Amy Gilbert
ParticipantAlso, is there a reason you aren't outputting to PDF? If you aren't trying to sell the book, that might be your best option.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantYou need to do one of two things to get your images and other content to appear in the right place in the epub:
1. Put all your content inline with the text. To do this, copy the object, put your cursor inside the text box and paste it. Then you can use Object->Anchored Object->Options to reposition the image where you want it.
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2. Use the Articles panel to tell InDesign what order to output your content. When the Articles Panel is first opened it gives you a brief explanation of how to use it.
I don't know about the interactivity or how to get that to work. I've never done an ebook with interactivity. I think that requires epub 3 output though. And, it probably will require some tweaking after the fact of the XHTML and CSS files.
This is a pretty advanced project for a beginner. I suggest you sign up for lynda.com if you aren't already and take some tutorials on InDesign, epub, html and css.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantPDF is a proprietary format owned by Adobe. Adobe is the only entity that can update it and improve it and adapt it for reading devices. People making ebooks would have to buy Adobe products or a product that could create an e-reader friendly pdf. Adobe would control the whole market. Also, the comanies with reading devices and bookstores would have to get the right from Adobe to digital rights manage the books they sell. They would probably need to get a license for each book title.
Epub is an open standard so it's better for bookstores, publishers, authors and book designers. It is html-based and a lot of people know how to edit html already. It's got a ways to go to match pdf for fixed layout. But for novels, it's already there. Novels are a huge part of the ereading market and probably what epub was originally intended for.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantOkay, wow. That's messed up. It worked in the preview and not in the final post. Oh well. I tried.
Incidentally, that was supposed to be the pre tag before and after the “and.” So the forum software recognizes it as a tag and hides it, but it doesn't honor its properties.
August 20, 2012 at 5:17 pm in reply to: Can I put flow a newer Word doc (with corrections) on top of current Indesign doc (without those corrections)? #62943Amy Gilbert
ParticipantWell, this is a Microsoft Word tip, not InDesign. There is no way to bring in the unformatted text into InDesign and hope for ID to magically format it for you. All I can tell you is how to have Word highlight the changes so you can manually make the same changes to your ID file.
Docx is not really what I wanted to know. I wanted to know what version of Microsoft Word you are using (e.g. Windows 2007, Mac 2011, etc.). But I will tell you how to do it on the Mac Word 2011 and if that's not what you have, I'm sorry.
Open both the changed document and the original document in Word. From the Tools menu choose Track Changes –> Compare Documents. On the left, click the blank menu bar and choose the original document. On the right, click the blank menu bar choose the changed document. Click OK. From the row of tabs above your document, choose “Review”. There are previous/next buttons on that bar that will let you navigate through the document changes. Hope this helps. If you are using Word for Windows, check out this web page.
August 20, 2012 at 6:51 am in reply to: Can I put flow a newer Word doc (with corrections) on top of current Indesign doc (without those corrections)? #62934Amy Gilbert
ParticipantYou can compare the new file from your translator to the original one you placed in InDesign if you still have it. You must do this in Word, not InDesign. You will end up with one document with changes tracked (marked in a color) If you tell me which version of Word you are using, I'll tell you how to do it.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantThanks Jongware. There are a few good tips in there that I can use.
I sure wish Adobe or some plugin author would address this. It seems to me, some software could use the same method I manually use to find the problems and correct them.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantThat sounds like the convention for non-fiction. Fiction is different and not as cut and dry. Usually, the first page of chapter one is not 1 and is probably some number based on some or all the unnumbered front matter pages.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantIs this what you're talking about?
If so, I don't believe they used InDesign to create it. They either program the iOS and Java apps themselves or use something like Adobe's Digital Publishing Suite. They charge on a per-issue basis for this product though I don't know much else about it.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantThis bug has been fixed! It is mentioned in a blog post on this site: https://creativepro.com/ind…..leased.php.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantNot sure if this is helpful but I have Lion and CS5 (not 5.5) on one of my computers and I get typographer's quotes just fine. Either manually or through the preference. I wonder if deleting your preferences file would help. Or perhaps it's the font you are using.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantI don't use footnotes, so I was unaware of the difference. I suppose there is an inconvenience to not being able to have multiple styles signify chapter breaks. But since I don't really ever need to have more than one heading for my chapters, the benefits in CS5.5 far outway the disadvantages for me.
One thing I use extensively now is the export tagging. This is what makes it all worthwhile to me. I simply design my css style sheet outside of InDesign and set up all my styles to output to the appropriate tag. This solves the problem of not having a class for your plain body text (it can just use the p tag) and allows you to use heading styles whenever appropriate (not just when there's a chapter break). It makes for a much cleaner, and therefore easier to edit, css style sheet.
Another big plus is the Articles Panel. I don't use it a lot but it can be really helpful for documents with complex layouts that need to be used for both print and epub.
And then there's just the bugs and improved support. For instance, Now you can use InDesign's TOC feature to create a linked TOC (you used to have to create hyperlinks by hand). Nested styles will output properly with the character styles applied as a span class. In CS5 the nested character styles were ignored.
If you are a member of Lynda.com, take a look at Ann-Marie's tutorial for CS5.5 epub output. It's great for an overview of the new features.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantTo do the drop cap with an image, use an img class. Here's the css code.
img.dropcap {
float:left;
}
Then in your html, tag all of those drop cap images with class=”dropcap” (you can change dropcap to something else if you want). Not sure if you can export from InDesign with the class already applied. That would be cool but I don't know how to do it. I know in CS 5.5, InDesign uses object styles to create div classes but I'm not sure how to create img classes.
To do your drop cap with text, you can embed the font you want to use for the dropcap (it's an option in the output I think on the Contents tab) and then use this code in your css:
span.dropcap {
font-family: “font name”;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 4em;
float:left;
line-height: 1em;
}
In CSS, “dropcap” is the span class. In InDesign, it's a character style (you can use something other than dropcap if you want of course). In CS 4 I think you may need to use Jongware's handy preptext script to turn drop caps and nested styles into regularly applied character styles. Make your drop cap style bold and preptext will create a “bold” character style that you can then rename to dropcap (or whatever you like to match your css span class) provided you don't have any other bold in your file – if you do, use small caps to create the Scap style or pick one of the other styles it creates. You don't need to do this in 5.5 as InDesign now outputs dropcaps and nested styles as character styles.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantIf you are on a Mac, you can copy/paste the files from Finder right into Excel. That'll give you filenames. If your ID file, Excel file and images are in the same directory, I don't think you'll need the full path – but there's a way to do that too with some Excel and Word tricks.
If you are on a PC, at a DOS prompt type
dir > filename.txt
from the directory where all the files reside. This will give you the file names with a lot of other garbage you don't need, but it is a fixed width text file so when you bring it in to excel, choose “fixed width” in the Text Import dialog and when you click “Next” you'll be able to set up your columns so that one column is just the file name. Then you can delete the rest.
Amy Gilbert
ParticipantThe reason why I was using the book feature originally was because epub required it and I need to output it for both epub and print most of the time. I do book design for self-publishing authors. Then, even after CS 5 made it unnecessary to use the book to separate your chapters, I found it to be the easiest way to keep track of the first pages of chapters with a different master page and starting further down the page for my print version. Later, I did see an ingenious post on this site though about how to acheive that using Rule Above and Rule Below for the chapter title style, so I will do that from now on and put all my books in one document. I just don't have time to count pages after every output.
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