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Stevekir
MemberThank you. (I knew it was 10.8, finger trouble!)
I think that I will upgrade to CS 6 to keep going with it. When it (and my Photoshop CS6) no longer work with a future OS down the line I will have to drop Adobe products because I cannot afford to pay the subscription for CC stuff — its far too expensive for me. The problem for people like me is that there is no other page layout software that works and has a range of features.
August 12, 2012 at 10:26 am in reply to: Will IND CS 5.5, version 7.5.2 work in Mountain Lion? #62859Stevekir
MemberThanks. Seems I should really update to 7.5.3
Stevekir
MemberLooks like an OS problem. I installed Lion last Autumn on my 2011 iMac and have had lots of glitches all over the place (eg., mouse loosing connection; iPhoto hanging, and about 8 other teeth-gritting anoyances.) One of these is ID CS 5.5 has quit “unexpectedly” twice, whereas previous versions, (1 and 2) were rock solid over the several years that I used them before upgrading to CS 5.5.
Stevekir
MemberI have 13 widespread incurable bugs/oddities/annoyances with OS 10.7.2 I dare not upgrade to a later version, especially after this post.
Stevekir
MemberAnne-Marie said:
This sounds to me like a simple confusion of settings with Page Setup. You may need to select either landscape and/or short edge binding somewhere for your printer. Have you tried clicking the Print Settings button in Print Booklet and fiddling with the settings there? You can keep checking the Preview panel to see if you're getting there.
AM
Thanks to your tip about the short edge binding in the area of duplex binding. I set this to “Short-side stapling (Top), and also setting “Scale to fit” in Print settings, and can now do what I want: make an A5 booklet. I had at some time experimented with these two settings but there are so many variables in Printing a Booklet that some other setting must have been wrong which caused failure.
Thanks for the help.
However, because of the large number of variable settings, Adobe's help files could, in my opinion, give some more guidance. Also, I have recently bought the Quickstart Guide to Indesign 5.5 and there is only a tiny mention of the “need to experiment” with the various settings! Too true! Some guidance on curing bad results could surely have been given.
Also, I wonder why InDesign can handle only 2-up booklets. I have made myself an InDesign document imposed with 4-up, each of the imposed pages flowing the text in the correct order, just using the InDesign document (no Print Booklet). Time-consuming to set up but it works well.
Stevekir
MemberThanks. I will have a go.
Stevekir
MemberMy printer uses A4 paper. I want to make a boklet where each A4 paper page comong out of the printer has two imposed portrait InDesign pages, with those two imposed portrait pages printed with the paper in Landscape mode. That is, when looking at the paper page after printing, holding it facing you in landscape, the two imposed portrait pages should have their tops at the top of the paper page (as for reading), and positioned on the paper page side-by-side (from left to right). In other words, the left (long side ) of the left imposed page should be close to the left (short) edge of the paper page, and the right (long side) of the right imposed page should be close to the right (short) edge of the paper page.
In that way I could fold the paper page along its vertical centreline, bind it along that centreline, and make an A5 booklet (A5 is half the size of A4).
However, InDesign insists in ptintong the paper page in portrait mode. That is, (to repeat the words above but amended), In other words, the left (long side ) of the left imposed page is close to the left (long) edge of the paper page, and the right (long side) of the right imposed page is close to the right (long) edge of the paper page. The result is that, with the two imposed Indesign pages stretching across the width (shorter dimension) of the paper, the two indesign pages have to be correspondingly narrow to fit acrfoss the paper page. (This wordy explanation is necessary since images are not postable on this forum.)
This results in a tall narrow booklet. I have tried specifying Landscape orientation and altered margins, etc., but it has no effect.
On Acrobat Pro, I have looked at an Adobe video of Acrobat Pro book printing. Do you have experience of it, and if so, do youthink that it would do what I want? (However, I would rather use what I have got – InDesign.)
Thanks.
Stevekir
Member“It's still a bit unclear what you managed to accomplish though. Are you using InDesign's (extremely basic) Print Booklet feature to 'impose' an existing InDesign document?”
Yes, exactly, and I have now made my booklet successfully, thanks to this thread.
However, I would like to make an improvement. I am using A4 paper (because that's the size of my printer). InDesign's Print Booklet feature seems to insist that the pair of imposed pages (2-up, saddle) must be printed in portrait mode. This obviously means that the width of each printed page (containing a pair of imposed pages side-by-side) cannot exceed the width of an A4 page which is 210 mm. This makes for a tall and narrow booklet (I can't post an image from my desktop so here are some setups (the width, height and margin settings by experiment):
Document Setup:
Pages: 32; Facing Pages and Master Text Frame: checked; Width: 105 mm; Height 175 mm; Orientation: Portrait; Bleed and Slug: 0.
Margins and Columns:
Margins: Top, Bottom, Inside; Outside: 14 mm; Columns: 1; Gutter: 4.233 mm (default); Enable Layout Adjustment: unchecked (default).
Printing:
Printing is set to Portrait and Duplex printing (that is, each 2-up imposed page is automatically run through the printer twice, being printed on both sides.
This results in the imposed pair of pages (I mean InDesign Document pages) being located correctly on the A4 Page, the gutter being central suitable for the fold for the stapling.
However, if I could instruct the impositioning and/or the printer to print in Landscape, therefore with the above pair of imposed pages being turned tound 90 degrees, I could have a wider booklet, which is what I would like. (The corresponding restriction on the height would be OK). I have tried combinations of switching the Width and Height and Orientation settings but there is no change (or at least no change that gives me the result that I want).
Any ideas please?
Thanks
Stevekir
MemberActuallyn no! I knew that the Place command is used to place text into an InDesign doc.
Stevekir
MemberThanks to your help, I now have my booklet finished.
The reason why I was stuck was that I started creating a booklet by doing File > New > Book. Seems sensible. I wanted to make a boklet and here was a menu item that seemed to offer that. That got me nowhere. What your help did was to make it clear that it is first necessary to create a Document, and with the master page box checked (not intuitively obvious) and only then turn it into a booklet for printing. Logical, but only after the event! I searched the Internet, Adobe's helps, everywhere, but nowhere was that made clear, nor even a reference to it in the Print Booklet help.
As you said, I needed to tweak the settings for the booklet because I was confined to using A4 paper and the margins had to be closely adjusted to allow the imposed pages both to both keep within the paper width but not extend over the edge of the paper. However, worked fine.
Many thanks.
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