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• • July 28, 2015 at 2:44 am #76937
    Jessica Lister

    Member

    Hi all! This is the first time I am posting here and am looking for some age advice on my annual report project. I have been working with indesign for a long time but by no means think that I am an expert.

    So this is a rather large document that will be perfect bound, with a lot of financials and copy. Ideally I would like to work with bigger inner margins and smaller outer margins for when this is bound and then still looks centered. My problem is that the client tends to delete pages which creates problems with our tight deadline and having to manually fix up layouts that need to move from right page to left page. Is there a way to not have to do this manually? Otherwise my boss would like to use the same inner and outer margins but this makes me uncomfortable as there is so much info (especially in the tables) that needs to fit in an even smaller space. Our deadlines are so tight on this that we will be working day and night for about a week, and would like to minimize the changes we need to do on our side.

    Does anyone have any advice? I have never worked on such a large document before so I have not had to think about all of this. It wouldn’t be such a headache if the client was not so unpredictable.

  • July 28, 2015 at 4:00 am #76939
    Chris Thompson

    Member

    Is the document laid out in spreads (facing pages)?
    If it is, surely that solves the inner/outer margin problem automatically. If you delete a page later, the pages that come after the deleted page move across, respecting left/right margins, even if the inner margin is larger than the outer.

    For perfect binding, might be worth talking to your printer to get their recommended margins.

    Chris

  • July 28, 2015 at 4:23 am #76941
    Jessica Lister

    Member

    Yes this is laid out in spreads. I have tested it and found that it does shift to where it sat on the right side when it moves to the left. I feel really stupid, like there should be a simple fix and that I must be the only person who goes and manually shifts all of the text boxes. I have been doing research and learned about primary text frames. Should I be using these?

  • July 28, 2015 at 8:28 am #76958
    Chris Thompson

    Member

    When you say it “shifts”, do you mean it does or doesn’t respect the new margins if, after a page deletion, it moves from a right page to a left, or v.v.?

    I just tried a test document (CS6), using different inside (15mm) and outside (9mm) margins, 5 pages, laid out in spreads (1, 2-3, 4-5).
    I put text boxes in 5 positions on page 3 as follows:
    a. touching both left and right margins (i.e. the usable width of the page);
    b. touching only the left margin;
    c. touching only the right margin;
    d. left of centre, with left edge aligned to right edge of box (b);
    e. right of centre, with right edge aligned to left edge of box (c).

    Then I deleted page 2. The old page 3 became the new page 2. It contained all the elements from the old page 3, aligned just as described above. i.e. I didn’t need to manually shift any text boxes, as they stayed in position relative to the margins and relative to each other.

    I don’t *think* primary text frames have anything to do with it.

    Chris.

  • July 28, 2015 at 9:12 am #76959
    Dwayne Harris

    Member

    Is “Enable Layout Adjustment” turned on? It’s under liquid layout.

    If not, try turning that on.

  • July 29, 2015 at 6:47 am #76990
    Jessica Lister

    Member

    Hi there, thank you for your feedback.

    I think the problem has been that I didn’t have layout adjustment on. Thank you! I was just testing the beginnings of my sustainability report and changed the margins so the text boxes would also change size and it did it on it’s own so that’s wonderful! I’m sure I will get it right in the end. :)

    • July 29, 2015 at 7:05 am #76991
      Dwayne Harris

      Member

      Glad I was able to help. Good luck :) :)

  • May 29, 2019 at 9:58 am #116912
    Civi Bernath

    Participant

    I have a catalog with a header on each page that needs to be edited. I have a text frame on each of the master sides, 1″ from the the spine. The page margins are below that for the catalog content.
    I release and type in the header frame, making sure not to move the frame itself. But when a page gets moved, the frame doesn’t move along. It makes sense because the frame on the facing page is a different text frame, so now I have one unreleased text frame, along with the text frame with type in it, positioned 1″ from the outer edge.
    Any suggestions how I can have a text frame that will position itself correctly, depending on whether it’s a left or right page?

    • May 29, 2019 at 10:24 am #116917
      David Blatner

      Keymaster

      @Civi: That’s the goal of using Primary Text Frames on master pages.

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