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• • October 12, 2013 at 1:56 pm #65742
    Jack Brannen

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    This is a hard one to explain in writing, so I made a short video: https://youtu.be/NvaXP1OKCcg

    Quick summary: when I have a body page with a master applied, but the body page shuffles to be on the other side of a spread (e.g. was left, became right), I want the corresponding different page of the master to apply to the page objects, so that things like text frames move.

    I’m stumped! Any ideas?

  • October 13, 2013 at 12:03 pm #65745
    Dwayne Harris

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    Jack–I experimented, and for some reason InDesign doesn’t like inside to inside when moving things. It works fine outside to inside, though.

    To get around it, I went to my master pages and changed the outside margin. Say my column measure is 45 picas. I changed the outside margin to 22p6. If you still need to see your regular margin on the outside (i.e., for art placement or something), you can always place a guide.

    Anyway–that worked. I think InDesign needs to see those master page guides so it knows exactly where to move that type to. Just a text box on a page won’t cut it.

    Here’s a screen shot of what I did to my master pages.

    Note: You may want to be sure page adjustment is checked (under liquid page).

    Hope this helps.

    I personally never use master text frames, but this should work with them or without.

    Dwayne

    

  • October 18, 2013 at 8:04 am #65869
    Jack Brannen

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    Hey Dwayne,

    Thanks for your help. Honestly, I can’t follow what you’ve written. What do you mean by “inside to inside” and “outside to outside”? Also, what is the use of changing your outside margin if that will upset the master text frame? Also also, you then say that InDesign needs to see master page guides, but I thought you just said that what needs to move is the master text frame, and that guides can be placed however I please.

    Can you elaborate a little?

    Thanks!

  • October 18, 2013 at 3:16 pm #65874
    Dwayne Harris

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    Jack

    Sorry I’ve got you confused. And I should been more specific and said master text frame.

    I thought from watching your video that you had single text frames on each page. And both were “inside” (i.e., closest to the gutter). And that the problem was that when you added a page, InDesign placed the text on the outer side of your recto page.

    I was under the impression that you were only going to have a narrow single text frame on each page (both closest to the gutter); and maybe leaving the outside for art or something.

    If that was the case, that was why I changed the master text frames accordingly. InDesign looks for the text frames when positioning text.

    I had said about adding guides in case you wanted to “drag” a regular guide somewhere on your outside area for reference or something.

    For example, I just did a job where the situation was similar to the snapshot I posted. All the artwork and sidebars went on the outside of the page. So I “dragged” a regular guide to establish a margin reference for myself so I’d know where to align the art/sidebars.

    By inside to inside and outside to outside, I was referring to the page area. In my snapshot, both of those text frames are “inside” (i.e., closest to the gutter). Outside is the outer margin.

    I’ve probably got you more confused, huh?

    Dwayne

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