vertical strokes in table
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May 7, 2018 at 11:16 am #103585Nicole MullerMember
No matter where I look I can not find the place where I could change the color of vertical strokes in a table. Any help would be great.
Thanks in advance
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May 7, 2018 at 3:56 pm #103590Graham ParkMember
Use Cell Options in the Table Menu.
Shortcut is
OPTION COMMAND B
or ALT CONTROL B
Then go to the Strokes and FIles tab and select the strokes you want to adjust, style, colour weight etc -
May 8, 2018 at 2:32 pm #103598Nicole MullerMember
Thanks, Graham,
I am on a Mac and option command B replicates the object I select. Even then I can only select 8/9 cells with the type tool. When I do that I can remove the column guides but not the rows.
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May 8, 2018 at 2:54 pm #103599Nicole MullerMember
Here is what I would like to achieve. The sample was made using tabs and I’m trying to learn how to use tables to achieve the same effect.
https://imgur.com/pQIym0SThanks so much.
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May 8, 2018 at 3:50 pm #103600Graham ParkMember
Have you set your keyboard shortcuts to a none standard set???
To select the whole table move your cursor to the top right hand corner of the table until to changes to a 45º angle arrow, then click. DO the same to above a column or beside a row and the arrow will point down or right, click to select or click and drag to select multiple rows or columns.
Once selected use the shortcut (it does work) or use the Cell Style from the Table Menu
The you can apply the format you want.Or read the Adobe tutorial for Table Formatting.
https://helpx.adobe.com/au/indesign/using/formatting-tables.html -
May 9, 2018 at 12:23 pm #103614Michel Allio for FRIdNGEParticipant
Graham is totally right!
First, read the InDesign documentation! …
Then, it could be time to learn Javascript to just style the 1,000 tables [or more] of your book … in 1 click!
Best,
Michel, from FRIdNGE
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May 10, 2018 at 12:07 pm #103632Colleen ShannonMember
To select the whole table, click in any cell and Command-Option-A. (Graham, hovering over the top LEFT hand corner worked for me.)
Using the Table Grid (proxy preview in Control Bar): Triple-Click to toggle between Selecting All or No strokes. I usually start with No strokes, 0 pt, Cell Styles->None, then start formatting.
Then a combination of Table and Cell Styles to get this:
https://i.imgur.com/zsUw8bk.pngThis sort of a manual way to do it, which is ok for a small job, but it sounds like you might need something more automated. I’m still to trying to understand tables better, myself.
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May 10, 2018 at 2:29 pm #103638Nicole MullerMember
Thanks Colleen,
Thanks for the reply. You got it to work-thanks. I’m a bit stumped by the combination of table and cell styles. Does that come from the table menu in the control button?
Yes, I am looking for an automated solution but learning how to control all strokes seems like a good thing to know, nonetheless. The original version was made using tabs which is fine for small jobs but for the big ones I need automation.
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May 10, 2018 at 6:01 pm #103653Michel Allio for FRIdNGEParticipant
If you want to style all the tables of your doc like you show us, you’ll just need … a basic “6-code-lines” script!
Just need to wait for a scripter who could do it for you for free!
Best,
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May 10, 2018 at 6:14 pm #103654Graham ParkMember
Nicole
From the example you showed at the beginning I would tackle it this way.
Create Paragraph Styles for your Header row format (eg Bold) and the Data rows format (eg Regular)
Create a Header Cell Format, this will include the Font (eg bold), the cell format which has no strokes.
The create a Body Cell format, Font (regular) and stokes top and bottom only in the style you want eg 0.5pt Solid 25% black.
Then create a new table, Insert Table, set the Table Dimensions to be how ever many columns and rows you want and ONE HEADER ROW (you need this for the next step) and then select the New Table Style from the Drop Down at the bottom.
Now Name your new table style
Click OKNow you can create your table.
You can also use this Table Style to update and control tables, click a table and then click the table style you want.
Change the cell styles and the tables will update,
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May 12, 2018 at 4:24 pm #103716Nicole MullerMember
Thanks again Graham.
I got some success by using the table options. I need just the column stroke to go away. I’m still getting the hang of paragraph styles
I also need to have the row stroke to be below the content.
I’m struggling and your post is helpful.
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May 12, 2018 at 5:29 pm #103718Graham ParkMember
Have a look at these images os how I set up a table like you want.
https://imgur.com/a/y26RLihIn the CELL STROKES dialogue box you can select some of the strokes set them to say 0pt then select other strokes and set them to say 0.5pt. Only the strokes selected will be affected, see the Adobe user guide
https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/table-strokes-fills.html#table_strokes_and_fillsHere is the tutorial for tables styles.
https://helpx.adobe.com/au/indesign/using/table-cell-styles.html -
May 22, 2018 at 2:12 pm #103922Nicole MullerMember
Thanks Graham.
I’m still working through it (https://imgur.com/a/ZOOT8TJ) but I can’t figure out how to make just the header bold and the rest of the table not bold.
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May 22, 2018 at 4:45 pm #103923Graham ParkMember
Created 3 Paragraph Styles, you may only need two and these are just examples. You can set any text formats you want
Table Header – Bold
Table Body – Normal
Table Footer – Light Italic (Optional, not sure you are using a footer to your table)Then I create 3 Table Cell Styles
Header – using Table Header para style
Body – using Table Body para style
Footer – using Table Footer para styleThen create the Table Style using the 3 cell styles above.Under the General TAB in the Table Options dialogue box
This is make the Header BOLD, Body NORMAL and Footer ITALICThen if you edit the Paragraph Style all the related text will change, or edit a Cell Style and these cells will be affected.
A good way to see if things are working correctly is to edit the style, eg edit the Header paragraph style and make the text colour magenta all the controlled text will change, then just undo or change it back.Good luck.
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May 22, 2018 at 5:19 pm #103924Michel Allio for FRIdNGEParticipant
… And don’t forget to convert the first row to “header” and the last one to “footer”!
I hope for you you haven’t hundreds of tables to be played! =D
Best,
MichelPS: Remember my basic “6-code-lines” script proposal if big headache! ;-)
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May 22, 2018 at 6:23 pm #103925Graham ParkMember
True
If you need to add a Header or Footer row you can apply your Table Style then select the whole table and in the Cell Styles pallet right click [None}
and select ‘Apply [None} Clear Overrides
That should do it.If you have lots of tables all with Basic Table format you can either edit that or just select BASED ON and use the new table format you have created. All the tables will then update to the new format.
Follow good procedures, plan before you setup a new document and the formatting will be easy and consistent.
A script can be good if you have more complex requirements for correct/update an existing document.
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May 22, 2018 at 8:51 pm #103926Graham ParkMember
Michel is right you may need to convert Header and Footer rows
Highlight the row, Right Click and then select convert to Header etc. -
May 24, 2018 at 1:34 pm #103972Nicole MullerMember
I’m getting close! I’m still putting things together just wanted to show you how far your help has taken me (https://imgur.com/a/uEXQ2a8). I have more questions-just wanted to say an interim thanks.
Next step is getting data to fill the thing. Stay tuned..
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May 24, 2018 at 6:25 pm #103973Graham ParkMember
Glade to hear you are making progress.
What is your data source? Let us know and we should be able to help you to do this the easiest way. -
May 25, 2018 at 5:05 am #103975Michel Allio for FRIdNGEParticipant
Just a comment 2 weeks after my first post:
I suppose it’s not an urgent work to be achieved in a short delay? ;-)
… and I don’t understand well what you mean about your mention “…getting data to fill the thing”.
For me, it’s just a problem of layout! … So, I confirm my first comment! ;-)
Best,
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May 25, 2018 at 11:34 am #103976Nicole MullerMember
Michael and Graham,
I am trying to teach myself how to make tables. The data source is an Excel document which I just got. The thing is that it comes in pre-formatted and I don’t understand how to control its format to make it look better and ready to receive the styles I’ve created for it in InDesign. I tried to set up a table with 26 columns and 88 rows and this is what happens https://imgur.com/a/8S2Rc50
Thanks so much to both of you,
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May 25, 2018 at 12:25 pm #103977Michel Allio for FRIdNGEParticipant
… Because your import it as “tabulated text”!
You need to import it as a “table”! Then apply a table Style (building the header/footer).
You have to really understand how to play before becoming a “Tables Queen”! ;-)
So, it’s a really good thing for you to learn more about tables!
My eventual work for you: just give you the way to perfectly build hundreds of tables in just 1 click! … But this is just a detail and truly less important than your personal learning!
Best,
Michel
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