Text Frames CC2018 (Windows)
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Hello:
I’m having all sorts of problems with an InDesign document. I’ve never seen the likes of this and I thought I’d see if anyone what this might be.
I type some text into a new frame and when I apply a paragraph style, the text disappears and there is a red square, with a plus sign in the lowers right-hand corner. If I extend the width of the frame to the right, the text will appear, but on occasions the width of the frame is extremely wide ( 21 in.)before I see the full text. If I manage to manually change the paragraph style attributes to what I know is correct, the text will change, but the moment that I apply that same paragraph style from the panel, which has identical attributes, the text again disappears.
I played with all sorts of settings, but nothing seems to work. I tried exporting to IDML and exporting from CC2018 (currently using) to another computer running CC2017, where this problem has never been experienced, the problem raises its same damned ugly head!!
I’ve used another template for a similar document, cleared out all text and graphics, and started afresh but the same problem returns!!
What’s wrong with this picture (document)?
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Well, I don’t use CC2018 that much, but I’ve seen that in previous versions. And that square w/red box is the overflow marker.
Sometimes it can happen when your paragraph style is set up for single line composer AND the hyphenation is set to not break across columns/pages. If that’s the cases, it’s because of that conflict. There is no way InDesign can avoid that hyphen unless paragraph composer is used.
Another idea: Was there a character style applied that has no break attributes?
21 inches seems like a lot to have to pull out the box to check it. Yikes!
I’m leaning towards your hyphenation settings or no breaks.
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Hello Dwayne,
I looked into your suggestions and the preference under Advanced Type is set for Adobe Paragraph Composer. Also, we have no hyphenation set for our paragraph style, and the attribute for no break is deselected (blank).
Our various paragraph styles have been set for all our many documents and hardly vary from one document to another. Once in a while, we encounter a “rogue” document, such as this and rebuilding it is arduous, but not impossible. This, however, is a whole different ball game! I’ve removed all the paragraph styles and re-imported them from an entirely different document. I’ve changed the “base” template, but to no avail!
Thanks again for your help. Hopefully, I can get this fixed – somehow…
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Make a copy of your document first, then try this troubleshoot:
Select all text, then:
1. Paragraph->Turn on hyphenation
2. Character->No Break (uncheck).
3. Character Styles – are there any applied? You may have to disable them
4. Copy and Paste text into WordPad and Save as Plain Text. Copy and Paste back into your InDesign file. -
Hello all,
Actually Colleen, before I read your reply, for which I thank you, I must have been inspired to check further, because, in fact I did find that for some inexplicable reason, a character style was being applied to all the paragraph styles! Eureka! Problem solved. I removed the no break character style completely (we do use it to keep “Figure” and its number together when they are split over two lines when cross-referencing a Figure in our documents). I did notice a couple of unusual new paragraph styles in this particular documents, but several writers can work on the same document over the course of say a year, so occasionally new styles are required… perhaps this is how it crept in!
Anyway, thank you both so much for your inspiration!
Regards.David.
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