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    • #64069

      I am going insane with this problem that should not be this difficult!

      I am creating a table where all the cells have a white stroke around them, except the stroke around the table which has to be in another color.

      I have set up all my cell styles in a table style. The cell styles are defined with a white stroke and it looks good.

      Now… how to apply a different stroke around the whole table? I have tried applying a table border i the table style options, but it does noting at all.

      The only way I have been able to get a stroke around the table is by using the stroke and swatch pallet. And that is not what I want. I want this to be a part of my table style, so that I can manage which stroke is on top, the cell stroke or the table stroke.

      How can this be so insanely difficult?! I have even watched all the videoes at Lynda.com without getting any closer to a solution.

    • #64071
      Hopsa Rijnen
      Member

      I tried to reproduce the problem, and you're right, BUT i know that cell styles do be the boss around a table!

      So the table style should exist with a head side-, left side-, right side- and footer side-style which has that line stroke applied to the disered side. That's the only way i can think of.

      Cell styles will always override what a tablestyle (either basic- or selfmade) will tell each cell how it looks.

      To conclude; make 4 more cell-styles with that border in place.

      Good luck, Hopsa

    • #64072

      Are you sure this is the only way?

      In that case I would need a LOT of cell styles – Left, right and middle styles for both head, body and foot. Is that really the easiest way of doing this?

      Furthermore, in Table styles, you can only apply one CS for header and footer. I still cannot solve this, what am I doing wrong?

    • #64073
      Hopsa Rijnen
      Member

      You're not doing anything wrong to start with, it's true there can only be chosen one style for each of the 'Five directions' in a table. Header, left, body, right and footer. So in total you would have 5 cellstyles for 1 of your tablestyles. If you would even want one cell in the header/footer to be another design, you would have to manually do that, or assign a 6th style, or one of the styles that differ from the one you are about to override. Depending on your workflow.

      Probably not the most easiest way to begin with, but practice makes perfect, and an occasional video at Lynda, have you seen 'Indesign Styles in depth'? Then it will make much more sense.

      Still, there are some limitations to a table, but they are easily overcome with a smart cell- and tablestyle plan.

      If it's just one table to format, then manually would be better, does this answer your question a bit?

    • #64076

      I am sorry, but it doesn’t really answer my question. You said to make 4 more cell-styles, but it does not solve it.

      Why doesn’t table border in the table style options work? It just does nothing at all…

      I have watched those videoes over and over again but they do not cover my problem.

      I have made a lot of tables and have no problems formatting them to my need. That is not the case. I need the table style to be formatted to sove this, not to use a ton of overrides to do it.

    • #64100
      Hopsa Rijnen
      Member

      i have tried to make it happen with only 5 cells styles, but all 4 corners are not what they should be, so in a large document with lots of those tables you'd still have to do it localy or with four 'corner' cell styles added. Nine styles, of which four aren't even applied automaticaly.

      The only way to speed up, is smart styles plug-in (woodwing) it has a fully functional demo of 30 days, so perhaps that does the trick for this job. Objects that have been made with that smartstyle library don't lose their lay-out when the trail period is over. They stay the way they are! Good to know.

      good luck

    • #64102

      Okay, thanks for trying:-)

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