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• • October 12, 2010 at 3:18 am #57328
    hopeuk

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    Hi people…a recent convert from Quark here…having been a Q user for many many years I'm having fun getting to grips with ID5 (having used ID3 briefly)…and feel like we, as a company, are getting there!

    Anyhow, one initial problem I have encountered is as when dealing with footnotes in a 'straightforward' textbook, and how to control reflow of text that ID seems to apply when corrections are made.

    For example:

    If I delete a word(s) in the text and this causes reflow, sometimes a footnote que will come back from the following page, onto a page that it wasn't on previously, and therefore in turn, bring the footnote back also. This may be fine in some instances, but in some its not. Is there a way, as there is in Quark, to manually 'knock' the line back over to where it was (and thus taking the footnote back with it), by adding space above the first footnote…?

    Any help with this would be appreciated!

    Cheers

  • October 12, 2010 at 5:58 am #57329
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    How would you do this in QX?

    You could force a column break, I supposed, with type > insert break character. You might also try turning off Adobe Paragraph Composer in the justification dialog box for that paragraph. Hm..

  • October 14, 2010 at 3:02 am #57366
    hopeuk

    Member

    Hi David, thanks for your reply.

    In Quark, you had a runaround feature, we would often place footnotes in a secondary text box at the bottom of the page, and then is we needed to 'knock over' the line of text above the first footnote, would simply added space above the footnote box via the roundaround command. It is a manual process but works very well if you become used to using it!

    Moving to idesign is a new thought porcess for us…compared to Quark its slick and the 'automation' (for want of a better word) will make out lives easier in the long run, but its just a different way of thinking.

    We have found a way to get a similar result now in ID.

    By highlighting a word in the first footnote, and then increasing the leading you can knock the line of text above it over to the next page…so i guess a similar method in a way and result.

    Seems obvious now but sometimes you can't see the wood for ther trees!

  • October 14, 2010 at 5:40 am #57368
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Hey, that is a really good tip! Adjusting the leading of the first line pushes the footnote line up/down… cool. Thanks.

  • October 14, 2010 at 8:28 am #57372
    hopeuk

    Member

    increasing the leading (which is measured base line to baseline) in effect just adds space above the line you have selected. So just double click on a word (you have to have something selected not just have the cursor 'in' a word) which is in the first line of the first footnote, and then increase the leading (which in effect is just adding blank space above the word) until it knocks over the line to the next page. This could be a few points or it could be quite a large increase…depends on how many lines or how much space you need to create.

    Anyhow…as a newish user and having just discovered this site I will be asking many more questions…so many thanks for peoples help in advance!!

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