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• • February 23, 2010 at 4:18 pm #54978
    erickp

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    Hey Everyone… perhaps you can help me from going crazy!

    I started a new document and copied a text box from another document. I didn't realize but the text box I pasted into the new document contained a font that no longer exists. No biggie, I created a new paragraph style and then applied it to the imported text box and bamm, all is good, right. NOPE… now every time I go to apply the style it applies the font that doesn't exist. EVEN though, in the paragraph style options, it shows the correct font. Can anyone help me out?

    THANK YOU! Arghhh! ;-)

    ~Erick

  • February 23, 2010 at 4:37 pm #54979
    Theunis De Jong

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    Alt+click on the paragraph style to forcibly remove all local overrides? You can see if a paragraph has local overrides if its style name is followed by a '+'.

    To check which items are overridden, click in the paragraph; then go to the Paragraph Style Panel menu and select 'New Style'. You don't have to confirm creating this new style, but the box Style Settings will tell you something like 'MyParagraphStyleName + Times DiddlyWhoop + align: justified, last left – hyphenation' — everything that's different from the original style.

    Oh — perhaps you have a Character style, this trumps everything in the Character section of the paragraph style. And it will not show the '+' in the styles panel…

    Or (the endless possibilities!) you have a nested or GREP style with that font set.

  • February 24, 2010 at 2:18 am #54984
    Anonymous

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    If you go to Type>Find Font, highlight the missing font, change it to the correct font and click the “Redefiine Styles” option.

  • February 24, 2010 at 8:18 am #54994
    erickp

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    @Eugene Tyson: This worked! Thank you!

    BUT now I have another issue. I've defined bullets within that same paragraph style and the space automatic space created between the bullet and the type is pink, as if there is a font violation. Any idea's?

    The space is defined as an “en space (^>)”. Not sure why it would give me that error/highlight.

    @Jongware: Thanks for the help!

  • February 24, 2010 at 8:40 am #54996
    Anonymous

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    Perhaps and en space isn't available in the font that you have choosen.

    Search for all en spaces and change it to another font that has the en space glyph

    Probably best to test one or two en spaces and fonts first, if you make a character style for your en spaces it may help speed things up, as you can include the character style in a nested style or Grep Style that will find en spaces and change them to the character style you need on the fly.

  • February 24, 2010 at 10:01 am #54998
    erickp

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    Eugene… Thanks for you help… before I start playing with changing the en space glyph…. I'm having now ANOTHER issue….

    When I apply the style I have created for bullet points different text boxes don't take on the styles character. It does the bullets but for what ever reason doesn't want to take on any of the character attributes contain in the style. Is there a way to force/override a style? I don't understand why it insists on a different font. In one text box I'll have three lines and all three lines have different font attributes. Doesn't check out…. What am I doing wrong?

  • February 24, 2010 at 10:21 am #54999
    Anonymous

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    It might be looking for a different font because you have a character style applied.

    or the paragraph style might have a nested style

  • February 24, 2010 at 10:46 am #55000
    erickp

    Member

    You're right! I had character styles carried over when I pasted the other text boxes from the previous document. It seem to be favoring those styles over the paragraph style.

    Is it normal for character styles to override paragraph styles?

    Oh.. and the glyph thing just went away. Not sure what happened but it must have been something funky in the character styles I deleted.

  • February 25, 2010 at 3:20 am #55008
    Anonymous

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    The character style overrides the paragraph style because you normally apply a Paragraph Style to a block of text. Then if you want characters witihin the block of text to be different you apply a character style.

  • February 25, 2010 at 5:48 am #55010
    Theunis De Jong

    Member

    There is a good chance it happened like this:

    1. You selected a character style without any selection in your document. This sets InDesign's default for all following text.

    2. You pasted text from somewhere else excluding formatting. In that case, ID uses the default formatting for your text — font, size, paragraph style and character style.

    3. err… just 2 points really.

    If you select nothing at all (hit Shift+Ctrl+A, or select Deselect All in the Edit menu, or select your black arrow and click outside anything and everything), does your Character Style panel point to “[None]”, or does it indicate some other style? If it does, simply select “[None]” to set this again as default. (It won't help you for stuff you already placed, but next time it'll be better.)

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