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• • October 2, 2023 at 4:45 am #14396270
    Aldo Carbonari

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    I have a headline with a date below :

    History Book
    1965 – 2024

    Within my InDesign document the “1” does not hug the left hand margin of the text box, there is a noticeable space – interestingly, this does snap in line when I outline the text – is there a way I can resolve this so I can keep the numerals editable?

    Thanks

  • October 2, 2023 at 5:48 am #14396272
    Mike Rankin

    Keymaster

    Check out this post and download the script linked in the comments. https://creativepro.com/removing-space-along-left-edge/

  • October 2, 2023 at 5:55 am #14396273
    Aldo Carbonari

    Participant

    Thanks Mike

  • October 2, 2023 at 9:12 am #14396291
    Anne-Marie Concepcion

    Member

    Wow, so cool to see that script that was written for CS3 still works in CC 2023! Long live Dave Saunders. ;-)

    But it makes me nervous to see the gnarly workaround it uses lol … I think it could cause problems down the line when editing or exporting to epub and such.

    OP: If it’s only happening with numbers (the date range) you might try selecting that paragraph and choosing a different type of number glyph from the OpenType menu. It’s probably set to Default Figure Style, but I’ve found choosing Proportional Lining does the trick. It can be saved in the Paragraph Style (OpenType Features section) or made into a character style, and then used as a GREP style, if you want.

    • October 4, 2023 at 3:20 am #14396329
      Aldo Carbonari

      Participant

      Thanks Anne-Marie,

      This is better, but not quite aligned.

      Thanks

  • October 4, 2023 at 2:54 am #14396328
    Chris Thompson

    Member

    Does setting Optical Margin Alignment (in the Story panel) make a difference?

    • October 4, 2023 at 3:27 am #14396330
      Aldo Carbonari

      Participant

      That would work, if the first numeral in the date was not a “1” as this makes the top part of the number hang past the left hand margin …

  • October 4, 2023 at 10:16 am #14396347
    Michel Allio for FRIdNGE

    Participant

    … Using a very old Script written for a Client 6/7 years ago: just precise at 4,000%!

    Here, “black color” = before the Script, “red color” = after the Script, zoom at 1,102.3%:

    https://snipboard.io/jb72oI.jpg

    and for all the alphabet:

    https://snipboard.io/vCqNk8.jpg

    (^/) The Jedi

  • October 4, 2023 at 1:25 pm #14396363
    Peter Kahrel

    Participant

    I was never aware of Dave’s script. It’s a very clever solution, but for me the sidebearing showing up at the start of a line is a kerning problem, and my kerning script deals with it:

    https://creativepro.com/files/kahrel/indesign/kern.html

  • October 5, 2023 at 1:17 am #14396382
    Aldo Carbonari

    Participant

    Thanks for this Peter,

    Sounds good to me, I will give this a try.

  • October 5, 2023 at 6:16 am #14396385
    Michel Allio for FRIdNGE

    Participant

    Hi Peter,

    I’ve studied Dave Saunder’s script and sure using the “DropCap” feature is really clever!

    But I don’t find explanation about these 3 last code lines:

    var normalizedKernAmount = (neededShift * 12/myChar.pointSize) + .5;
    myPara.insertionPoints[0].contents = SpecialCharacters.hairSpace;
    myPara.insertionPoints[1].kerningValue = normalizedKernAmount*-1000/12;

    I suppose “12” and “.5” are linked to the use of the special char “hairSpace” but Dave doesn’t give us more info!

    So, truly perplexe!

    (^/)

  • October 5, 2023 at 7:26 am #14396386
    Michel Allio for FRIdNGE

    Participant

    Understood!

    See: https://jsid.blogspot.com/2008/07/align-left-edge.html

    (^/)

  • October 5, 2023 at 7:47 am #14396387
    Peter Kahrel

    Participant

    To translate a distance (in points) to a kerning value, you multiply that distance by (1000 / point size). So to add 6 points between two characters, you do

    app.selection[0].kerningValue = 6 * (1000 / app.selection[0].pointSize);

    I used that in the compose script (https://creativepro.com/files/kahrel/indesign/compose.html).

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