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PDF text shifts when placed as image in InDesign

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    • #111890
      Brett Stone
      Participant

      [Edited — I had the order of events incorrect]
      Gulp!
      Our client uses software that compares versions of PDF at a level more detailed than that of Acrobat compare. Recent multiple variations are compared to a master PDF, and most of the content (such as tables and disclaimers) does not intentionally change, either in content of position. But due to undetermined causes, we struggle to get fresh PDF output that matches the master in those unchanged areas. PDFs are print-quality, fonts embedded, used on hundreds/thousands of files in a well-managed environment, semi-automated workflow for consistent file handling.

      To remedy this, we placed the master PDF into the multiple variations to use the unmodified portions as image. Yet when we generate the fresh PDF we get the same text shifts (odd kerning, and even vertical shifts within paragraphs) that were present in our earlier PDF variations. (Stated differently, the master PDF doesn’t match itself when placed into and output from InDesign.)

      So we think this is an issue related to how InDesign generates PDFs, including PDF content placed as images.

      Suggestions?

      * Is there a way to modify how InDesign renders PDF content into a new PDF?
      * Can we prioritize embedded fonts rather than local fonts when creating?

      MacOs, CC2015

    • #111894
      Tim Murray
      Member

      When I make PDFs to be placed, sometimes I make a PostScript file then use Distiller, with one of the “standards” (found in the Advanced tab of Distiller’s settings) selected.

    • #111972
      Brett Stone
      Participant

      Tim,
      Did you go the PS/Distiller route to address a particular issue, or because ‘that’s how we’ve always done it’? Does Distiller do something significantly different with fonts than an export to PDF?
      In related news, many of our documents export as layered PDF, something that appears to not be possible with Distiller.
      Hmmm. Still searching….

    • #112556
      Tim Murray
      Member

      I used a standard to fix a font encoding issue where text in a PDF opened by, say, Illustrator, appears as gobbledygook. I don’t know the reason — I could understand if someone else made the PDF and I didn’t have the font, but when everything is on my machine, I have no clue. Using a standard fixes things. Regarding layers, I basically have never bothered with them other than making some Illustrator files.

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