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• • November 3, 2017 at 10:00 am #99386
    suzerp

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    After upgrading my InDesign last night, I have a new quirky problem.

    It appears that pasting text frames from one document to another doesn’t keep the text frame alignment settings –

    In this particular work flow, which I’ve used for years, I normally create a file for a proof for the customer. It contains text frames that have their alignment set to the center of the frame (top to bottom). When it is approved, I select just the text frames and copy them into my plate layout file, where I duplicate and rotate those text frame into position for the press plates.

    But after upgrading, when I paste text frames into my existing plate layout or even into a new document, that text box alignment is not honored. It shifts to top alignment.

    How can I get that to stay where I want it?

  • November 3, 2017 at 2:20 pm #99390
    Dwayne Harris

    Member

    Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but if the default alignment is wrong, I think you can change it by changing the alignment in the reference point. That is located in the top left corner of your tool bar. It looks like a big square with a bunch of small squares around it. Click the one you want it to be (i.e. top left,top right, center, etc.). It sounds like when you upgraded your previous setting got changed.

    If that’s not the case and I misunderstood: Sorry.

  • November 6, 2017 at 12:45 pm #99420
    suzerp

    Member

    Dwayne – That’s not exactly the issue, but thanks for trying.

    It’s the content inside the text frame that isn’t aligning the same after the update, not the text frame itself.

    The good news is I found away to either fix it or override it (not sure what you’d call it) – with InDesign running but no other documents open, I edited the Default Basic Text Frame Style sheet and that seems to let me work the way I did before.

    • November 6, 2017 at 3:21 pm #99423
      Dwayne Harris

      Member

      Glad yuou got it suzerp.

  • November 6, 2017 at 3:29 pm #99424
    suzerp

    Member

    And I’m back.

    Now that I’ve spent more time working in the 2018 upgrade, it’s a little bigger issue.

    If I have a text frame in an existing document that is formatted to be 3 columns, if I select that text frame and copy and paste it into a new document (or an older document that has been saved as a 2018 version), it ignores that styling and shows a one-column text frame with overset.

    That is super not good news, as I have a ton of legacy files that I take pieces and parts of to created updated versions (like calendars and catalogs). I know this behavior didn’t exist before, because I still have one co-worker who hasn’t upgraded to 2018 and we’ve tested it.

    Screen Shot here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uerwq3tzvargzs7/Screen%20Shot%202017-11-06%20at%204.31.16%20PM.jpg?dl=0

  • November 6, 2017 at 4:22 pm #99426
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    My first guess is that it’s a “basic object style” problem:
    https://creativepro.com/beware-basic-styles.php

    • November 7, 2017 at 7:50 am #99434
      suzerp

      Member

      David –

      In this case, the Basic Text Frame style hasn’t been altered – it shows the standard default of 1 column.

      I don’t have a specific style sheet applied to that text frame (because it’s a small document and I just needed that one page to be set up as 3 column), I just selected the text frame and manually over-rode the number of columns. In the previous versions of the InDesign when I brought that text frame into a new document, that over-ridden style was honored. Now it doesn’t.

      Is my work around is to create specific styles for all of these one-off occasions and apply them to all my legacy files so I can move them as needed?

  • November 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm #99427
    Dwayne Harris

    Member

    I know I’ve worked on jobs where someone had to make a double-column text frame. For some reason InDesign insisted that ever text frame made after that was double-colummn. It seemed to have turned into the default, even though the basic said otherwise. Even if I selected “basic” it still did it. Could never solve it and instead had to fix by hand.

    Or being stuck on a character style when drawing a text box. It insists that a character style is chosen, even though I have selected none in the palette. Only options are to delete the character style and then remake it.

    Is is buggy at times and does what it wants to do.

  • November 7, 2017 at 8:16 am #99435
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Suzerp: It sounds like something is wrong, for sure. This doesn’t happen if you copy and paste from a new CC 2018 document to another CC 2018 document, right?

    It shouldn’t be doing that. I wonder if you export the original INDD file as IDML and then open the IDML, is it still 3 column? If so, does it still turn to 1 column after copy and paste?

  • November 7, 2017 at 8:55 am #99436
    suzerp

    Member

    Actually David, it DOES do that if I override the text frame (not the object style, just the individual text frame) in a newly created 2018 document, and paste that frame into a new 2018 document.

    Super boo.

    – s

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