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• • October 8, 2024 at 10:03 am #14407009
    ekessler

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    InDesign frequently breaks lines of Hebrew text in the middle of words. This has been a problem for a long time and I have not found a font that it does not do it with. Sometimes switching to World Composer single line helps, but not always.
    I am not working on a long document and can not go through the entire text to fix this.
    Any ideas?
    Thank you!

  • October 8, 2024 at 10:08 am #14407012
    Steve

    Member

    I design books in Hebrew and am curious about your claims because I’ve not come across it.
    Screenshots might help and more information.

  • October 8, 2024 at 10:24 am #14407023
    ekessler

    Member

    Here is a screenshot:
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0fk7dvlyc6oyp199g2lo3/2024-10-08-12_13_25-_template-TEST.indd-100.png?rlkey=46rts8jlmstd6bsestgxgdqpv&dl=0

    • October 8, 2024 at 11:07 am #14407045
      Steve

      Member

      Where did you source your text from? Who modified it? It’s more than likely you have sourced it from a traditional repository which insert a lot of hidden characters.Turn on your invisibles.
      Your diacritical positioning needs some attention as does kerning but addressing the above points were more than likely automatically solve this (and your original issue).

  • October 8, 2024 at 11:51 am #14407052
    ekessler

    Member

    Thank you for your answer. The text comes from DavkaWriter. The invisibles did not show anything. I also tried putting into Word as sometimes that cleans it up.
    Can you recommend a better place to get Chumash and Rashi from? Also a high quality Vilna font. Even it if it costs?
    Thank you.

    • October 8, 2024 at 1:12 pm #14407065
      Steve

      Member

      How did the text get into DavkaWriter!!!
      Open it in the story editor and chick’for characters you don’t need.
      Go to sefaria.org and Fontbit.

  • October 9, 2024 at 2:10 am #14407114
    Chris Thompson

    Member

    I’ve never seen that either. Does it make a difference if you
    – set the text language in the Character panel to Hebrew?
    – turn off hyphenation?

  • October 9, 2024 at 10:08 am #14407135
    ekessler

    Member

    Thank you very much for your help.
    I have tried all your suggestions and did not find any extra characters. Sefaria text produced the same results.
    I think it is caused by the nekudos. I tried text without nekudos and could not replicate it.
    Any other ideas?
    Thank you.

    • October 9, 2024 at 10:27 am #14407136
      Steve

      Member

      Let’s go back to basics, assuming you have a Middle Eastern version of InDesign and know how to work in it with Hebrew, open a new document and import your clean text. If it still happens, share the file you have with us.

  • October 9, 2024 at 12:11 pm #14407146
    ekessler

    Member

    Here is the file:
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2vjzo08z9erfit2ciiom9/line-break.indd?rlkey=qvycmg6k3g5f2u909qgp1jt4h&dl=0
    Here is the how is looks in a pdf.
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/wego8d89pgji0i3ylvown/line-break.pdf?rlkey=m902lmqfabq612p4atx5i4d9f&dl=0
    Thank you

    • October 9, 2024 at 12:13 pm #14407149
      David Blatner

      Keymaster

      (Your post was stuck in moderation because it had a couple of mysterious links in it. :-) All good now.)

  • October 9, 2024 at 12:52 pm #14407152
    Steve

    Member

    1. Your story direction should be RTL
    2. Your paragraph direction should be RTL
    3. You should use a typeface that is befitting the subject matter, if you want a free one – maybe EzraSIL
    4. Your diacritic position should be OpenType (positive adjustment is up)
    5. Who chose the column width?
    6. I’m still not sure where you’re sourcing your text, here it’s Genesis 1… I took it from another location and the issues you face are not there. Maybe try https://mechon-mamre.org/dlt.htm (my source is not free – but this is).
    7. the fact that you say that you “think it is caused by the nekudos” is probably because your text actually has (as I suspected in an earlier response) characters that you are not seeing (and not the nikkudot).
    8. Work on your justification settings and the verse markers (and onwards with your peticha and/or stuma later).

  • October 9, 2024 at 4:38 pm #14407177
    ekessler

    Member

    Thank you very much. I tried Machon Mamre and it took care of it. However, they had punctuation. What is your source. We are willing to pay.

    • October 9, 2024 at 8:51 pm #14407178
      Steve

      Member

      Then choose without https://mechon-mamre.org/indexhe.htm

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