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    • #60388
      Tom Pardy
      Member

      This is not mission critical or anything desperate like that. I am just curious.

      I use that marvelous innovation, Soxy, from Rorohiko, as I have several versions of InDesign on my computer (iMac, OS 10.6.8) and frequently need to save files in a version that matches that of clients who have not upgraded. Soxy works beautifully and, after a document has been opened in a particular version, its desktop icon matches that version.

      However, there is a strange anomaly with InDesign books (.indb files). If I open a book (which is basically a panel, rather than a document, of course) and then close it without doing anything, from there on it carries the appropriate desktop icon. If, however, I open one or more of the “chapters” of that book and do work on them, I need to Save the book before I can close it. When I do, the desktop icon goes back to the generic Soxy icon.

      It seems that every time I save an .indb file, instead of just saving it, InDesign replaces the existing file with a completely new one. Is this so? Curious. I know this is probably a question I should address to Rorohiko, but I figured the gurus who inhabit InDesign Secrets pages would know the answer. :-)

    • #60400
      Kris Coppieters
      Participant

      Hi Furry!

      Glad you like Soxy. What you're describing sounds correct – Soxy is continuously fighting apps that 'know better', and Adobe apps often do detrimental things to icons and file associations after Soxy left the stage. By the sound of it, this is one of those situations: I think you're right, and InDesign probably writes out a brand new file when you save the .indb, and destroys the old .indb in the process – and hence, also destroys the custom icon along with it.

      By that time, Soxy has long disappeared from the scene, and hence, you're left with a new file which gets a 'generic', version-less Soxy icon. Soxy only comes back into the picture next time you double-click the .indb, at which time Soxy can slap on a custom icon – only to be thwarted again next time you save the .indb.

      We're always concocting new schemes to try and work around the oddities of various apps (especially on Windows, things get positively hairy, with apps sparring for control over who gets to open the file).

      One of the schemes we're working on is to keep a Soxy 'daemon' alive in the background to fix up things that happen 'at a later time' – we already do that on Windows, but we'll probably also have to do it on Mac, to re-adjust things after other apps have had a go at wrestling control away from poor wee Soxy.

      When software development duty's to be done, to be done, a code cutter's lot is not a happy one.

    • #60402
      Tom Pardy
      Member

      Thank you, Kris!

      I admire the way you and Joris are so tenacious in ironing out bugs. It is not the first time I have raised an issue with you and, as ever, you seem to be right on top of it. Well done!

      I look forward to the creation of your daemon. In the meantime, I will sit back and smile each time I see “poor wee Soxy” wrestling with the great unco-operative Adobe. My money is on David rather than Goliath — at least in the long run.

      :-)

    • #60403

      Kris, would that be a similar issue as what I ran into when I installed Acrobat X? I prefer the ol' reliable v.9 (if only because we have a Pitstop installed on top of that) but every time I instruct my Mac to use the older version, Acrobat blithely ignores me!

    • #60415
      Kris Coppieters
      Participant

      Hi Jongware,

      Yeah, pretty certain it is. We also have similar issues with Illustrator overriding the 'Open With…' – all these issues we're hopefully be able to solve with the daemon. Pretty rude behavior by the Adobe apps, if you ask me.

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