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• • June 21, 2017 at 1:45 am #95593
    Tyler Dickinson

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    We all know that ID is a memory hog, but mine appears to be extra gluttonous. I’m working in the first document of a book file; the book has 10 documents, but it’s only 35 pages long. Only the current working file is open; it is 9 pages long. The other 1 or 2 page documents in the book don’t lag at all, the other 3?4 page documents lag a little. But this, the longest document in the book, lags horribly.

    The document is only text, no graphics. Two fonts, but a number of paragraph styles and character styles. Each page has only one text frame filling the page, and everything flows from one text frame to the next. So it’s a pretty basic layout. Nothing fancy, no funny business. The only thing is there are a lot of cross?references (31 to be precise) to locations in this document and in other documents in the book. But none of the destinations are changing, and the auto?updating is turned off (I think).

    Nevertheless, the file lags so terribly…it literally pauses to think between each letter I type. When I type the word “requires”, the “r” shows up, then the hourglass, then the “e”, then the hourglass again, then the “q”…you get the idea. No exaggeration: it takes 15 seconds for the word “requires” to appear on the screen after I’ve hit all the keys.

    I can’t figure out what to do to make it better. I have tried all the usual tips and tricks and troubleshooting for speeding it up: lowering the display quality, turning off live?redraw, even “Save As”, export as an IMDL file, open the IDML, “Save As” again…none of it helped. I have nothing performance heavy running in the background. No other CC programs or anything. Task Manager shows that only InDesign is using incredibly high amounts of memory, disk, and CPU, sometimes maxing them out at 100%. I’m getting pretty desperate, because it’s taking forever to edit this document.

    And, since you’re all wondering, my computer specs:
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Intel Core i7?4510U CPU @ 2.00 GHz
    12 GB RAM
    375 GB free on a 1 TB SSD
    Adobe CC 2017

    If you want to try the file out for yourself, here’s the Dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4d6e3bnjilzptno/Liturgy%20Planning%20Form.indd?dl=0. (Obviously, please save the file to your computer and don’t edit the original. Thanks!)

    Thanks in advance for your help!!

  • June 21, 2017 at 1:47 am #95594
    Tyler Dickinson

    Member

    P.S. The ?’s in the post should be -‘s … (except in the Dropbox URL…the hyperlink is correct as is)

  • June 21, 2017 at 7:45 am #95600
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Wow that is strange (both the lag and that your characters turned into ? symbols)

    I suggest Rebuilding your Preferences file. (Probably won’t help, but worth trying.)

    31 cross-references is not very many. (If you said 310 or 3100 I might worry.)

    Do you have all the docs open at the same time? If you open the doc without the book panel open, does it still happen? Does it slow down for any other documents (even new documents)?

    Try working with all your panels closed.

  • June 21, 2017 at 10:13 am #95604
    Lindsey Martin

    Member

    I had a look at the document in ID CC 2017 on my Mac. Typing lags, though not as badly as you describe. Deleting x-refs changes nothing. Lag disappears when a passage is copied to a new document. Scrolling and moving graphics is normal so the problem appears to be connected with the type, though changing the fonts applied is not a remedy. I suspect Extensis Font Management, which shows up as a missing plug-in in Component Information (InDesign menu > command + About InDesign …). I don’t use it so the passage in a new document could be edited without lag.

    As an aside, I suggest that if you work with this sort of material a lot, you might have a look at Vincent Connare’s Magpie (available from Dalton Maag). It’s a nice compact font and has the glyphs for versical and response.

  • June 22, 2017 at 3:01 am #95614
    Tyler Dickinson

    Member

    Thanks, David and Lindsey, for your replies!

    Good call on the Extensis Font Management, Lindsey; I never use it anyways (I switched to MainType), so I disabled the extension. Bad news is it didn’t help. :-/

    David, the problem happens even when I have just the one document open, and the lag continues even if I open the file directly without going through the books panel. New documents don’t lag, and even other, smaller documents in the same book don’t lag. The lagging begins when the document reaches around 4 pages, and starts as small, occasional lags, and progressively gets worse as the document length increases. And, for example, I’m working on a different project, a booklet with text in columns, which is 18 pages (A5), and there’s no lag in that document.

    As Lindsey pointed out, copying and pasting is no problem. I can type the text, for example, in Notepad or Word and then copy and paste it into ID and it shows up immediately (or with a very small lag). Even copying and pasting within the same document doesn’t lag nearly as much. It’s just typing. I can navigate through the text using the arrows, and I can select the text with shift+arrows with no lag.

    If the panels are closed or if I change the workspace to “Essentials”, nothing changes. (I mean, the lag continues. The workspace of course changes!)

    What does it mean to “rebuild my preferences”? Is there a tutorial I could look at to see how to do that? (I have a Lynda subscription.)

    Thanks again for your help!

    P.S. I’m guessing the issue with the hyphens here is that my hyphen key inputs a no-break hyphen, and the forum font doesn’t have the no-break hyphen in its character set. So I just have to remember to use a regular hyphen instead of the no-break one! :)

  • June 22, 2017 at 11:44 am #95619
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Here’s a tutorial on rebuilding preferences in InDesign: https://creativepro.com/rebuilding-indesign-preferences.php

    So a new test document with 10 or 20 pages full of text doesn’t lag? If that is the case, then it seems like it must be something inside the documents… you sure you exported as IDML and then opened the IDML file for a fresh copy?

  • March 13, 2018 at 8:02 am #102386
    Marc Dunker

    Member

    I’ve had this issue several times. In the current document I’m working on, it does exactly as Tyler describes.

    The culprit for me is footnotes. If I remove footnotes, I can type normally. Other forums listed having issues when typing it text boxes with columns, auto-height/width, a mixture of styles that span/don’t span columns, etc.

    Another suggested workaround was to change preferences in Advanced Type > Type Contextual Controls and turn it off.

    Turning off preflight might help. Another user said they could type normally if they turned off the control panel.

    For my issue, simply removing footnotes did the trick.

  • December 9, 2019 at 4:02 pm #14323605
    Karen Snodgrass

    Participant

    The lag went away on mine when I turned off balanced columns on the threaded text boxes in my file. Phew!

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