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How to design titles as picture and save title information for TOC?

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    • #69035
      Dolce Vita
      Member

      For example I have titles designed in some way and I want to save this design, and not to simplify it.
      No problem – I group all elements and make custom rasterization.
      The problem is a title text converts to a picture, and I cannot use its style for building TOC.

      What can be a way to overcome this?

      I can put all my rasterized title as an anchored object to some paragraph but how does it help?

    • #69036
      Stephen Buck
      Participant

      Hi Dolce Vita.

      One way is to create the toc on a non-printing layer.

      I am completing a project that has two tables of contents, one in English, the other in Japanese. The TOC currently looks like this:

      English is on one side, Japanese is on the other.

      The pages that hold the TOC text only have placed Illustrator files. While a single English letter appears on the page, that letter is present in the Illustrator file so InDesign will not format or read it. The print-view of the page looks something like this:

      The overprint view, however, is quite different because it displays a lot more information:

      In the middle-left area, there is a small a and ?. Those characters are in a text frame that is on its own non-printing layer. Another text frame holds the AIUEO ????? A ? text.

      In my case, because I am working with two completely different languages, I have also created two additional sets of paragraph styles, obviously one for English and the other for Japanese.

      It has been quite a bit of work to put this together, but in the end it’s been worth it.

      Good luck with your project.

      • #69037
        Dolce Vita
        Member

        hello
        thanks for your opinion
        I have tried this now, it even saves a place for TOC entry, but it remains empty. No TOC text appears in epub.
        I have even checked “include text on hidden layers” at TOC options.
        What did you mean it should look?

    • #69085
      Stephen Buck
      Participant

      I’m afraid I do not understand what you are trying to accomplish.

      • #69188
        Dolce Vita
        Member

        Right for now, I have solved this puzzle by just entering a title paragraph in white color, near designed title element that will be rasterized in exporting process.
        Then I have a text for building TOC, but don’t see it in iBooks (only if I choose Black view then this text magically appears :))
        Because rasterized frame and TOC text in white sit in same paragraph, hyperlink from TOC leads me exactly to designed rasterized title, that is beautiful.

        But it’s not a pro way to do it, just a trick.

      • #69436
        Dolce Vita
        Member

        Now I’ve found the final solution I think.

        The point is to make zero opacity to such title, so TOC engine will use text for building TOC and linking to right page, and opacity will make the title invisible :)
        that’s genius idea.
        Technically I put the title into div box and set opacity to zero. that’s all)

    • #69493
      Marty Safir
      Member

      @Dolce Vita
      I grappled with this myself a while back on a project. My mistake was painting the “trick text” white instead of 0% of black which led to problems. Somehow after much wrangling I made it work. Your solution is a good one. I’ll keep that handy for the future.

      • #69495
        Dolce Vita
        Member

        That (0% of color) what I had tried to do before the idea of invisible div.
        It doesn’t work for me.
        Now I’ve made one more book with this trick:
        https://s13.postimg.org/h736hhatj/test.jpg

        I save this designed title for life by adding a TOC row (it even can be coloured) by anchor, and its frame get a div description:
        div.invisible {
        opacity:0;
        }

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