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HELP using Conditional text or Layers for study guide and answers

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    • #14359965
      KATHERINE LLOYD
      Participant

      Creating a study guide AND an exact replica WITH Leader’s Guide answers IN THE SPACE provided for them to write in.

      Need to be able to hide or turn off the “answers” text so we can print a study guide with blank space to write and 2. a Leader’s Guide with everything including the answers in that blank space.

      Looking into layers and conditional text but can’t seem to find best practices help. I’ve searched and joined linked in learning and watched videos but can’t seem to find the right answer and don’t have hours and hours.

      Is there a way to use conditional text for the Answers/Leader’s Guide version without losing the space they take up? (when I apply the “condition” it deletes the SPACE when I turn off the condition?)

      OR
      How can I get the leader’s guide answers ONTO another layer and keep the spacing correct?
      Hope I make sense.

      Direct me to correct video or lesson?
      thanks in advance

    • #14359967
      Dhafir Photo
      Participant

      To use conditional text with keep every thing without lose any thing, use this trick:
      1.Make a character style with [None] Character Color
      2. Use Find/Change:
      in Find Format: Conditional Text
      in Change Format: Your Character Style [None Color]

    • #14359968
      Massimo Carrassi
      Participant

      I agree with Dhafir Photo but I would also try to use the alternative layout.
      When you create it you can activate the functions that duplicate the text styles in a new group and maintain the link between the texts.
      In the first layout you assign a font style to the words you are interested in; in the second layout you change the same font style by adding, for example, underlining and a transparent colour.
      When you make changes, the second layout will need to be updated and when you export the pdf, you can make 2 layouts by selecting the parts that interest you.

    • #14360015
      David Blatner
      Keymaster

      There are a number of articles about conditional text here on the site, including:

      InDesign How-to: Use Conditional Text


      and

      Find/Change with Conditional Text

    • #14360036
      Jim Smirch
      Participant

      Maybe there are good reasons not to do what I’m going to suggest, but it might accomplish what you want, depending on how you’re printing the leader’s and study guides.

      Use the nonprinting color trick in this post: https://community.adobe.com/t5/indesign-discussions/fill-text-frame-with-a-non-printable-color/td-p/9049690

      Create a spot color swatch of CMYK white, 0,0,0,0. Create another spot color swatch, say “Blue,” for your answer text. Alias “Blue” to the CMYK white spot color in the Ink Manager.

      For the answers in the study guide, apply a character style with an underline set to regular black and the text color set to “Blue.”

      With Overprint turned off, the answers should show with the “Blue” spot color. With Overprint turned on, they should disappear. The study guide should print with underlined blanks but not the “Blue” answer text. In order to print the leader’s guide with the answers, remove the “Blue” spot color’s alias to the CMYK white spot color, and print it.

      That should work for printing on paper. But be aware that if you use this method to create a PDF of the study guide, the answers will actually be present, and they could be visible with some settings in some PDF viewers.

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