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    • #64283
      SusanB
      Member

      I have CS5 and I am creating a riddle book that I want to publish in the epub format. It is setup so that a riddle is on one page, then the answer to the riddle plus the next riddle are on the next page. I inserted hard page breaks and it worked for the Kindle version but did not work for the epub version. What is the quickest and easiest way to insert hard page breaks for epub? I have 365 riddles and each one has to be on a separate page. Thanks so much for your help in advance.

    • #64291
      SusanB
      Member

      I took your course through Lynda.com on using Indesign to publish to EPUB, Kindle and iPad a while ago and was checking through my notes. You mention only two ways of creating hard page breaks: 1. create a book with multiple documents and 2. using TOC styles. Will either of these methods work in my case with 365 different page breaks and only 12 of them (one for each month) being tied to a TOC? Or is there an easier method? It just doesn't seem practical to create 365 different documents in a book.

    • #64310

      Hi Susan. This would be a LOT easier if you had CS6. It has a feature where you can tell InDesign to break the doc into separate html files (forcing page breaks) based on their paragraph style. Possible to upgrade?

      AM

    • #64361

      You can do that in CS5 though, can't you? Using the “Break Documenmt at Paragraph Style:” feature (in the “Contents” area of the EPUB export window).

    • #65864

      I’m working my way through Mike Rankin’s Lynda.com series on Interactive Documents. I have tried — repeatedly — to set the TOC title in the Roux Catalog to start on a new page through “Edit all Export Tags” but it won’t work. The “Courses” (TOC) head shows up directly under the Catalog Year on the first page. I’m able to force a page break with the Catalog Year paragraph style directly above the TOC title tag, so the process works — it just won’t work with this particular tag. I then tried to create a new TOC title style and apply that one — and it doesn’t even translate the style to EPUB; I get plain text. Any ideas?
      Nick

    • #65866

      Nick, the title of the TOC (like “Contents”) that InDesign generates when it creates a TOC is a weird duck, and this weirdness persists through InDesign CC.

      InDesign ignores the fact that you applied a paragraph style to it that’s supposed to split the EPUB. It won’t do it.

      I need to write a blog post about this, but the solution is:

      1. In your TOC style, clear out the text in the “Title” field at the top. You don’t want InDesign to add a title to the TOC. (There should be an option for “No Title” but there isn’t.)
      2. Along with the other paragraph styles, include the paragraph style you’ll be applying to your manual TOC title (step 4) in the TOC style.
      3. Save the TOC style and place/update it in your layout. There should be no title at the top.
      4. After you place the TOC, add a text frame above it an enter the title of the TOC (“Contents”) manually, and apply your style to it that will split the EPUB. Make sure the left edge of your Contents text frame is aligned with the left edge of your TOC text frame so they export in the correct order.
      5. When you export to EPUB, specify that TOC style in the dialog box.

      The end result should be:
      1. The title of your html TOC (the one at the front of the book) should appear in the navigation/device TOC, making it easier for readers to jump to it.
      2. The title of the html TOC should appear at the top of the TOC page … iow the “split epub” attribute worked.

      AM

    • #65870

      Thanks, Anne Marie. (You are the bomb!) I’m making progress. I deleted the title name and the style reference attached to it. I added the manual TOC head element to the Articles panel above the actual table of contents itself. When I generate the ePUB, a page break is entered above the TOC head element, which is what we want (yeah!), but it also puts a break in after it, so now I have “Courses,” the TOC head, on a page by itself. I tried grouping it with the TOC itself, but that didn’t work. I can send an IDML file of the doc if there’s an email address for that purpose. BTW, the opening style in the actual TOC is NOT set to create a page break, so that can’t be the problem. And I opened Story Editor to see if the TOC head style was somehow left as an artifact; it wasn’t. I’ll keep trying!! Also, the Content title is not being generated as a navigation button. I admit to be a novice at TOCs. I got “successful update” messages when I changed it, but something’s still amiss. I really appreciate your help with this.
      Thanks,
      Nick

    • #65886

      Let’s see.

      1. Check the paragraph style settings for your “Courses” text frame. (The style you applied to it.) Is there anything special in the Keeps settings?

      2. Ditto for the style settings applied to the first entry in the placed TOC. For example, if it’s set to “start on next page” then it’ll cause a break in some eReaders; that’s afeaturenotabug ;-D

      3. Check the settings for both text frames in Object > Object Export Options > EPUB and HTML. Any checkboxes enabled there?

      4. In your TOC style that you’re telling ID to use for the nav TOC, does it include the name of the paragraph style you applied to the standalone “Courses” text frame?

      AM

    • #67714
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Anne-Marie,

      You and David have taught me everything I know about InDesign and EPUB via Lynda.com. You’ve made it possible for the small research center where I work to enter in the world of e-books. So, thanks.

      I was really stuck with this TOC issue and thought I was going crazy. But an Internet search led me right to this thread. I created an account just to thank you again for getting me past this hurdle.

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