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• • September 7, 2017 at 11:20 am #97834
    David Langley

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    Hi,

    I’m designing an Annual Report for a client and they want a 40 page English with a flipped 40 page French Report in one document.

    The printer wants this as a Indesign file.

    My question is:

    I have page numbers running 1-43 for the English side. But need to add 43-1 French side flipped. Is that possible?

    Thanks,
    David

  • September 7, 2017 at 3:23 pm #97843
    Graham Park

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    If this is being printed first talk to your printer.

    I would create this as two files of the same number of pages and have the printer impose it to suit.
    This would be two standard documents it will be easy enough to work on, just open the two documents side by side as if it were a spread.

    I would make this a Book file so that your paragraph styles etc are synced between the documents and even have styles based on each other one for English and one for French so that the language is set correctly for each section.

    If the printer insists on a single file you could create a PDF file and move and rotate the pages as required by the printer.

  • September 7, 2017 at 3:56 pm #97845
    David Langley

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    He wants a Indesign file to print from.

    Hence why I’m having issues with page numbers.

  • September 7, 2017 at 4:43 pm #97885
    Graham Park

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    Looks to me that you will need to add the pages number manually (be careful or you will get errors).

    The other option is to use a script.
    This might do the job or ask one of the InDesignSecrets scripting experts for advice.

    Or this one might help.
    https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2198565

  • September 8, 2017 at 10:23 pm #97945
    Graham Park

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    Had another go at your problem. this one is not so simple but it should work and be useable.

    One restriction here is that the ‘flip’ has to be a complete spread or it is a bit difficult.

    Create the document with two page Masters.
    The first one A-Master set it up normally with page numbers set up with the normal auto page numbering. Simple so far.
    Next create B-Master which will be for the flipped pages that will have reverse page numbering. In this one create a text box to hold the page numbers but leave them blank for now.

    Create the first section of 41 pages with A-Master, remember this is easier if the centre does not have one flipped and one standard page.
    Then create the second section of 41 pages with B-Master.
    Now select all the section to be flipped and go to VIEW > ROTATE SPREAD. Now this section is upside down.
    Next go to each page in the second section and manually rotate all items on each spread 180% to get everything displaying correctly.

    Now for the page numbers in the second section.
    You can either make a list of number say 1 to 41 or more manually or in Excel how ever you want. each number should be separated by a COLUMN BREAK.
    Then start at the last page and PASTE the number list into the page number place holder.
    Link this text box to all the page number box in section B, use OPTION as you link them to make it quicker and easier.
    Now you have your numbers correct, delete a page or spread and the number reflow.
    Pages display normally in InDesign bit when you export it a PDF you will see that the section section is upside down as required for the flipped second section.

    Now very elegant but ti work. The easier way is to find a printer who will impose two InDesign documents or one that will accept a PDF file) that would be 98% of printer these days).

    Hope this helps
    Graham

  • September 12, 2017 at 6:50 pm #98023
    George Grenley

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    If it is only 40-some pages, create a series of linked text frames, from the back to the front. Create a numbered list paragraph style, and make the style in the linked frames this style. Then put in 40-odd carriage returns or something similar. It should number 1 to whatever in the order the boxes are linked. I think.

  • September 12, 2017 at 7:14 pm #98026
    Graham Park

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    George
    That is basically the numbering method I was suggesting, I like Frame Breaks as it ensure you don’t end up with two page numbers on one page.

    But you have missed that David wants one InDesign document that numbers from the front and back and the you ‘flip’ over so it have two fronts, one in English and one in French. Hence my rather convoluted rotation of elements and spreads so when editing the document the pages are the right way up but when it is printed half the document will be upside down which is how the flip works (eg all those Aldi catalogues that have two fronts)

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