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• • May 28, 2013 at 4:37 am #33706
    Zita Major

    Member

    Hi Everyone,

    I’m struggling with something that bothers me a lot. I have a Japanese text, a paragraph style is applied to it. In the paragraph style I set up a GREP style, that applies a different character style to numbers and latin letters.

    My problem is that the figures don’t want to turn into “Proportional Lining” even though I set it like that everywhere.

    Here’s a picture of the paragraph: https://goo.gl/IwrFM

    I looked everywhere, really, both in paragraph styles and in character styles, I just can’t find the way to turn them into lining figures. Does anyone have an idea about this?

  • May 28, 2013 at 9:48 am #33708
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Are you sure that font has numbers in that style? Does it work in other languages or other fonts?

    • May 28, 2013 at 10:32 am #33710
      Theunis De Jong

      Member

      That font is Scala Sans, but I cannot see whether it’s the normal variant or the Pro — “Pro” has Lining Figures.

      Zajormita, can you check if you see Lining Figures in the Glyphs panel for this font? If you do and you hover the mouse over one, does it say something like “lnum” in the pop-up?
      Another way is to check the regular numbers in the Glyphs panel. If they have alternate forms, they have a small triangle in the lower right of the square the number is in. Click the triangle and gold down the mouse to see what those alternates are.

  • May 28, 2013 at 11:42 am #33713
    Zita Major

    Member

    Hi David and Jongware,

    Thanks for the quick response. We just switched to Scala Sans Pro from Scala Sans Regular, but both of them have Lining figures, I use them all the time. In other circumstances (not with “nested” GREP styles) it’s always working, I’m always able to use both the lining and oldstyle figures (tabular and proportional as well).

    Here’s what I see in the Glyphs panel if I hover the mouse over “2”: https://goo.gl/j4XYE

    I haven’t checked it with other styles yet, I’ll do it a bit later but I’ve just started to use the “Japanese composer”, maybe this is something related to that, I really don’t know.

    I post my results later today. Thank you again!

  • May 28, 2013 at 1:10 pm #33714
    David Blatner

    Keymaster

    Is it possible you have a character style applied on top of all that text? Click in the text and look in the Character Styles panel to see if it None is highlighted or some style?

  • May 28, 2013 at 3:11 pm #33715
    Zita Major

    Member

    No, nothing. I double (triple) checked everything. I tried the same thing with Greek text and it’s working there. I also created a new paragraph style with another Japanese font and created the same GREP style in it. I didn’t use the Japanese composer and the numbers are in lining figure there. Then I applied my original Japanese paragraph style to that paragraph and the numbers turned to oldstyle figure. So I guess it’s the Japanese composer that causes the problem, because I checked everything in the paragraph style’s settings as well. Or I missed something.

  • May 28, 2013 at 3:39 pm #33716
    Diane Burns

    Participant

    Zajormita, are you using the English version of InDesign? If so, where are you getting the Japanese composer from?

  • May 28, 2013 at 4:24 pm #33717
    Zita Major

    Member

    Hi, yes, my InDesign is English and I downloaded the template from here: https://www.transpacificdigital.com/downloads/ [found this link in a lynda.com video of your course (multilingual publishing strategies), and I’d like to thank you here, it helped me a LOT! :)]

  • May 29, 2013 at 12:30 pm #33734
    Diane Burns

    Participant

    The idea with the “j-text” paragraph style in the template you downloaded is that this style is used as the basis for all styles. So, you’d dupe it, say, and then set your Japanese font, size, etc, along with any grep style you wish to apply. It sounds like you are applying the paragraph style with the composer somehow after you set up some other style for the grep style for the lining numbers. Would this approach help?

  • February 6, 2014 at 4:38 am #66994
    Zita Major

    Member

    Hi Everyone,

    I’m still struggling with this problem. Do any of you have a new idea about it? Nothing worked from the above mentioned approaches. I’m really curious if there’s anything to do with it.

  • March 20, 2014 at 12:09 pm #67687
    Aris Vidalis

    Member

    Well, I was googling for the same problem and by reading this page I got inspired and I found the solution.
    In my case the numbers that would not behave where among text in greek language.
    The solution: just change the language of the numbers to almost anything other (than Greek Language) they do behave as expected.

    It’s obviously a bug that affects only some languages. I do not see any Japanese option and I have not checked every language available but it happens with greek language.
    Hope this works with Japanese too :)

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