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Endnotes in InDesign C2019

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    • #110974
      Matt Mayerchak
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      Hi – I’ve been testing the Endnotes feature in InDesign CC2019 and here’s what I see so far:

      It appears to be much improved in several ways.

      a) you have the option of importing static endnotes, as it was in CC2017, so if the live notes just don’t work for you, you can go back to the way it was before without haveing to keep CC2017 installed just for this (we were placing text in CC2017 and then switching to CC2018 expressly for this reason)

      b) You can have InDesign apply paragraph styles to the Notes, char styles to the note refs, and specify prefix & suffix (i.e. tab before the number, period after, with a tab as separator if you like). Not sure how much of this was there in CC2018.

      c) if you delete a note ref, the note goes away; and vice versa.

      d) It puts endnotes for multiple chapters together in one threaded frame. You can insert spaces and heads to separate chapters, and have it renumber beginning with each chapter or story. So, as long as you use the frame it creates for the notes, you’re OK – i.e. you can change it to 3 columns, move it to a different location.

      CAVEAT: You cannot copy/paste the notes to a different text frame. If you do, they lose their link to the notes, the numbers come in as question marks, and if you delete the note text from the original frame, the note refs in your document disappear.

      You CAN add pages to the notes thread, and delete the original page and the notes will move and still work. So, it’s not the frame itself that contains the note refs; it appears to be some kind of cross reference format that does not get copied when you copy/paste the text. But it does not show in the cross references or hyperlinks panels.

    • #117493

      Matt,
      I guess like the rest of the world I’ve been using Word for all of my editing needs. Thou involved in a fairly large project it had been successful so far importing from word. The problems that I have in using word is that although they have an endnote routine it does not provide a two-step source/citation capability. Have just started to test the capability in In Design. I’m having trouble with the dynamic numbering, when I select a point to insert an endnote the program dutifully put me on the handouts page where I can paste an endnote; but the program defaults to 1 and pushes the previous endnote entry down to endnote number two which if continued would give me an upside down page of references. Has this been your experience and if so how have you compensated for it.
      If I’m unable to get either one of these programs to work the way I want I have looked at add-ins for both indexing and endnotes, and you been down that road at all.
      Thanks for all of valuable information on ID 2019 I really appreciate it.
      /r
      Bob

    • #117542

      Robert, it really sounds to me that InDesign is not the right writing tool for you. You are looking for “a two-step source/citation capability” – that sounds like a full-fledged reference list. InDesign’s Endnotes are just that: a simple numbered list, where each consecutive number in the text points to a single note at the end of that text. Exactly like footnotes, except for, well, footnotes go at the bottom of a page but endnotes go at the end of a chapter (or section, or book). Just like footnotes, you cannot have them out-of-order, have multiple references to the same ‘note, or have your notes sorted on last names but still point to the correct note number.

      As you already found out, Microsoft Word does not do this out-of-the-box either. For Word, there are multiple cross-reference managers available; for InDesign I know of none. (Also not for nothing. ID is generally not considered a good writing tool!)

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