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• • December 1, 2016 at 2:04 am #90215
    Chris Benge

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    Footnotes for the ebook I’m working on should appear only at the end of each ‘section’ (i.e. chapter), but are appearing in clumps in other places. This is because there are points within some chapters where I am forcing text to appear at the top of the next page by using the Split Document option in export tagging; the preceding footnotes view the split as indication of a new chapter, and so assemble themselves immediately prior.

    Can anyone offer advice about any way to get around this problem without abandoning the end-of-section footnote placement option? (As I understand it, while I can use Object Export Options to force an image to begin a new page, using the Split Document option is the only way to force chosen type to begin a new page.)

    I’ve also noticed that in some places the footnotes run on immediately after the book’s text, while in most other places they start on their own new page at the end of a section in what is a much more attractive layout. Can anyone suggest why I am getting one behaviour sometimes, and another at other times?

    Thanks

    Chris

  • December 1, 2016 at 9:51 am #90220
    Aaron Troia

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    Hey Chris,

    I’m a little confused, are you using the Split Document option for the Chapter title or whatever starts each chapter and you’re getting this issue? or are you applying the Split Document option for the endnotes? or for a paragraph style after a footnote? I only ask because your post sounds like you are applying it to footnotes. And are you using the Split Document option on styles within your chapter/section? I would advise against that as InDesign will view that as the end of the chapter/section and all the footnotes/endnotes will be placed at the end of each (you are basically telling InDesign to create a new HTML page every time you use Split Document and theoretically each chapter should be in one HTML page not multiple, if you’re doing coding after export, you can get around this but its a lot easier just to do it in InDesign) and really unless you have an image you want to force to another page, I would advise against using the Split Document option on any style other than the first style at the start of each chapter (usually the chapter number or title).

    You don’t need to abandon your endnotes, that’s actually rather normal, unless you are taking advantage of the popup notes in iBooks, endnotes are really the only way to do footnotes.

    Hopefully that made sense, let me know if you have more questions,

    Aaron

  • December 1, 2016 at 2:26 pm #90227
    Chris Benge

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    Thanks for your reply Aaron. To answer your queries: yes, I am using Split Document for the beginning of each chapter. But in addition I am using it where a subheading is immediately followed by an image. I don’t want the subhead to appear by itself somewhere on one page, and the image to appear at the top of the next page, so I used the only tool I understand I have to force the subhead onto the following page, where it can be followed directly underneath by the image. But the downside of this approach is the endnote issue I described.

    My query was whether I have any alternatives to the Split Document option which could solve my endnote clumping problem but still put the text I want at the head of a page. You mention doing it by coding after export — can you elaborate on this or point me to a helpful online resource?

    I am definitely not applying Split Document to either the endnotes or a paragraph style after a footnote.

    My second query had to do with the anomalous way my endnotes sometimes display (see screen capture: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fvi822tsv34z6w/Screenshot%202016-12-02%2010.19.57.png?dl=0 ) Normally they appear in an orderly way running from the top of a fresh page — but occasionally they don’t. Can you advise how I can ensure a chapter’s endnotes always start on a fresh page, rather than running on immediately after the final paragraph of a chapter’s text, as in the screen capture example.

    Muchas gracias

    Chris

  • December 8, 2016 at 2:56 pm #90404
    Chris Benge

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    My endnotes query (last paragraph of previous post) is still baffling me. Can anyone advise how I can standardise the appearance of the endnotes to always start on a new page at the end of a chapter?

    Another related question: InDesign requires users to set a global export setting for how note references will appear. Is there any way of making them behave one way (i.e., appearing at the end of the paragraph) in some places, but another way (appearing at the end of the chapter) in others?

  • May 17, 2022 at 12:42 am #14365828
    Nada Qamber

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    Hello!

    I found a fix that worked for me about the issue with footnotes:

    —
    I’ve also noticed that in some places the footnotes run on immediately after the book’s text, while in most other places they start on their own new page at the end of a section in what is a much more attractive layout. Can anyone suggest why I am getting one behaviour sometimes, and another at other times?
    —

    I had the same issue and found a fix.

    For me, I initially placed a page break immediately after the last word of the chapter. That was causing the footnote to page break into its own page in EPUB.

    FIX: I hit enter to add a paragraph space after the last line of the chapter then placed a page break. This brought the footnote on the same page of the chapter instead of its own page when I exported the EPUB.

    So with the “Show Hidden Characters” turned on would look something like:

    “This is the end of chapter sentence”¶
    (Paragraph space)¶
    Page break

    Hope this helps others figure this out!

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