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    • #57215
      tiompanista
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      I have somehow created two identical level one index entries, but each has different page numbers and lower level sub-entries. I want to combine the two level one entries and have all the pages and sub-entries under the one. Any ideas? Also, does there exist a comprehensive tutorial anywhere dealing with all this indexing mess?

    • #57217

      How identical are the entries? Is it possible one has two spaces inside, or a space at the end, and the other doesn't?

      It should be possible to fix this by (from memory) selecting the Topics display in the Index panel, and edit individual topics. As soon as you edit one entry to match the name of another, InDesign will concatenate the two entries into one.

    • #57218
      tiompanista
      Member

      Thank you! I shall certainly try it tomorrow.

    • #57219
      tiompanista
      Member

      It worked, by crackey! Now if only there were that comprehensive tutorial on making indexes I could actually get good at this. Thanks a lot! The knowledge on this forum has solved many problems.

    • #57222

      It depends on your exact role in the book making industry …

      1. Are you the writer?
      2. Are you the publisher?
      3. Are you 'just the technician'? ;)

      Countdown:

      Ad 3: That's me. I get a list of phrases (names, or individual words, or “the deconstruction of the Self in the Romantic Era”) and someone Up There says, “hey, I've heard you can make an index of these. Please do so, a.s.a.p.”. Only thing I can do is run a script that looks up each of the words in my ID file and adds an index entry for them. I recently got a comment “People with the same surname are concatenated into one entry. Also, the pages where they weren't mentioned by name are missing.” … 'Nuff said.

      Ad 2: Erm. See above? Publishers seem convinced 'an' index — any one — is better than none. I tend to disagree, because …

      Ad 1: Creating an Index is a skill. You definitely don't want a dumb 'list of words'. Proper indices contain 'see under' and 'see also' references; different word stems are concatenated into a single entry (where applicable). Names are in full, and appear as separate entries: “Thatcher, Margaret Hilda (British Prime Minister, 1979-1990) / Thatcher, Margaret (fictional character) / thatcher (occupation)”. If it's likely people would look up the 'wrong' word, synonyms ought to redirect them: “profession, see occupation”.

      I usually state it's the author's responsibility to create an index, because s/he knows exactly what the book is about, what terminology is used, and where people may be looking for in an index. But Indexing is also a full-time occupation; there are people who are amazingly adept at it, even for works they didn't write!

      Only after taking this into consideration, you should tackle the technologicalities, such as: how to properly enter an index entry into ID, how to add sub-topics and cross-references, how to edit existing entries … whilst keeping in mind all ID can do is create the “dumb” index! A Good index needs quite some additional work after that.

    • #57225
      tiompanista
      Member

      That's not what I mean. I'm having trouble with indexes in InDesign. My old entries from books that I've completed keep creeping into the one I'm doing now. I have multiple chapters in this book–all opened–and I don't know how to get the index for all these into its own separate chapter (or is my only option putting it at the end of the last chapter and not into a separate document?). It seems when these odd topics reappear, I have to “delete unused topics” one at a time. Where are they coming from? Is there some support file somewhere that stores them?

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