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• • March 26, 2019 at 1:56 pm #115557
    Stephanie Cavacini

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    I’m designing InDesign templates for other people to use. I have some placeholders for photos, call-out boxes, etc. that have top & bottom text wrap set to .25″.

    I’ve unchecked “skip by leading” in my preferences which has helped a little bit, but the bottom text wrap is never 100% consistent. Sometimes the text underneath the object is exactly .25″ from the object, but other times there’s a gap. The gap is never consistent. I’d love for the text underneath the object to always be exactly .25″ from the object.

    See screenshot here: https://imgur.com/xE7FgUK

    Any ideas?

  • March 27, 2019 at 6:09 pm #115604
    Jeremy Howard

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    Hello Stephanie, I am having a bit of trouble envisioning the method/scenario that you would be having trouble with this. Which method of text wrap are you using? (Wrap around bounding box, Wrap around object shape or Jump object).

    Is the object with the wrap bumping all of the text in a frame down or is text flowing around the side(s) and then across the bottom?

  • March 28, 2019 at 7:51 am #115620
    Stephanie Cavacini

    Member

    Hi Jeremy,

    It’s set to wrap around bounding box. I just tried wrap around object shape and jump object. No change.

    The objects are the full width of the text column, so there is no text wrapping on the sides. It seems that as long as the object doesn’t have text above it (i.e., object is at the top of the page) there is no issue with the bottom text wrap. But as soon as there is some text above it, the extra gap underneath appears.

    For objects with the extra gap, I just realized the space between the bottom text wrap area and baseline of the first line of text is exactly 15 pt, which is equal to the text’s leading. I could reduce the bottom text wrap amount in the object style, but then objects that sit at the top of the page won’t have enough bottom text wrap.

  • March 28, 2019 at 5:37 pm #115644
    Jeremy Howard

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    Ah, I see… I don’t know of a way to fix that to be honest. I could do a bit of digging and let you know if I come up with anything.

    In the meantime, consider creating two object styles to apply your wrap with. One for the top of page and one for mid page.

  • March 29, 2019 at 2:21 am #115648
    Vinny –

    Member

    Hi Stephanie.

    You can simply go to your text frame options > Baseline options and set First base line offset to Leading.
    (Keep the “Skip by leading” preference unchecked).
    This should make the bottom wrapping value consistent.

    However, you’ll still be facing the issue of inconsistent top gaps.

    I can think of two possibilities to keep both top and bottom gap consistent.
    But both require method and precision. You said that the template is made for other people to use. Meaning you’ll have to make some good training.

    Option 1 : anchor your placeholder. If height if fixed, you can check “prevent manual positioning” while unchecking “prevent selection of locked objects” in General preferences. If not, you’ll have to make an object style and make sure it’s not overridden.
    Of course, this option will not work if the graphic frame isn’t anchored between two paragraphs.

    Option 2 : align your text on baseline grid.
    Again, this will require method: graphic frame should always be aligned on the baseline grid too. Both top and bottom must be extended/reduced in order to snap to a baseline grid.

    Hope that helps.
    Vinny

  • March 29, 2019 at 3:52 am #115649
    Jeremy Howard

    Participant

    Vinny, those are both wonderfully creative solutions to this problem. Nice work!

    Your line of thinking got me thinking; another option would be to have two separate text frames, (one above the object and one below) and thread them. This would cause text to break around the object and would keep the spacing exact.

    • April 2, 2019 at 12:09 pm #115751
      Vinny –

      Member

      Hi Jeremy,
      sounds promising but I don’t really understand what you mean.
      Could you add an imgur link?

  • April 1, 2019 at 10:32 am #115708
    Stephanie Cavacini

    Member

    Thank you both for your creative solutions! I will definitely consider these in the future for my own InDesign documents. However, for these templates, I think the simplest method will be to create 2 separate object styles (top of page / mid-page) with different amounts of text wrap.

    • April 2, 2019 at 12:12 am #115750
      Vinny –

      Member

      Stephanie,

      unless I’m missing something obvious, I don’t understand how you can get consistent gap on top of your placeholders…

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