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Anchored objects can?t have text wrap?

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    • #61548

      Is it possible to anchor an object in the text and still have able to text wrap?

      I am trying out using the Articles panel to control the content flow rather than working with the XML structure. For images to appear in a particular place in the content flow, you need to anchor it in the text. There seems to be no way to allow the image to still have text wrap when the image is anchored. Or am I missing something?

      TIA

    • #61552

      Sure, you can set a wrap for an anchored object. After it's anchored, select the object with the Selection tool and turn on a wrap method with the Text Wrap panel.

      This pink ellipse was anchored in line, it's the first “character” of the paragraph that starts “One night”.

      AM

    • #61560

      @Anne-Marie

      Thanks for the rapid reply, sorry it has taken so long for me to respond. Most of my day was spent trawling through the vagaries of e-mail newsletter formatting. Grrr . . .

      What I am seeing in InDesign is depicted (I hope) below. Text wrap functions, but only from the line below where the image is anchored. Red circle where image is anchored.

      If there is a large image on the page and it is anchored to a smaller amount of text or if the image is supposed to fall on the page in the middle of text but be anchored (things which happens in frequently in magazine design) I end up with text falling behind the image. The solution might be to reshape the text frame to skirt around the image and no longer use text wrap. That feels like too much work. Or maybe there is a setting I am missing.

      In an xml workflow objects can be tagged and placed between tagged paragraphs with no problem. But I am trying to fit into the Adobe way of doing things.

      Screenshot of a text wrap

    • #61564
      Bob Rubey
      Member

      Frederick:

      I was able to recreate your problem without much effort in CS5 (Win). The after a bit of Googling, I found this piece of information in the CS4 Help:

      Wrapping text around anchored objects

      If you apply text wrap to an anchored object, the wrap affects the lines of text in the story that follow the anchor marker. However, the wrap doesn’t affect the line of text that includes the anchor marker or any lines before it.

      When you paste an object as an inline object, its text wrap boundaries are preserved.

      Sure enough, when I changed the anchor position (I inserted before the text flow), the problem resolved itself. Hope this helps.

      Bob

    • #61567

      @Bob

      Thanks, for researching this! I haven’t had a reason to use anchored objects much until beginning to work with creating EPub the Adobe way. I will have a play with this later today.

      Fred

    • #61568

      That is correct, it's a long standing failing for inline wraps. The only solution is to anchor the graphic in the line preceding where you want the object to wrap, and then after you paste it in, drag it downward with the Selection tool. In some cases (depending on the design) you can create an empty paragraph just above the one where you want the image to appear and wrap, paste the image into that empty paragraph, and then change the paragraph's size and leading to .001 (as tiny as possible) so that the space between the paragraphs appears to close up. It's easiest if you use a paragraph style for those “invisible” paragraphs; and use the Story Editor to work with it after the fact.

      AM

    • #61569

      I don't remember which version they partially fixed this; but in CS5.5 the text will wrap in the same line as the anchor (as shown in my screen shot above). But the wrap is still ignored in lines above the anchor insertion point.

      AM

    • #62708
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Folks:

      There is still a problem with this method. If the anchor sits above the graphic so that the paragraph the graphic is related to is actually below the anchor, the anchor is then attached to the preceding paragraph. If then the layout calls for the paragraph to break between pages, the graphic can end up an orphan attached to the precding paragraph while the next paragraph below–the one which the graphic should be associated with breaks wrong and it's ugly.

      Also, there is underlying assumption that I'm working with, i.e. the offending graphic/anchor mess I get is because the way I'm using the graphics, they always sit at the left side of the paragraph no mater which side of the spread!

      This is making me crazy!

    • #62709

      Robert, are you talking about how your anchored graphics are flowing in print or in an epub?

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