how to make a numbered list

I have been tasked with finding a way to create a multi-level numbered list in this fashion:

1.1

1.1.1

1.1.1.1

I have managed to figure out how to get the numbered list to act correctly (I am using paragraph styles for this), but the boss wants the ability to choose what the first digit should be. The document is divided up into “sections” and he wants the number list for Section 1 to start with 1 (as above), then the numbered list to start with 2 in Section 2 and so on. I cannot figure out a way to make that happen, and I don't think it can be done with Paragraph Styles.

Is there any way to do this without having to use the Number List diaglog? The guy is an old FrameMaker user and he hates InDesign so he keeps asking for InDesign to do things he used to do in FrameMaker. He has “it should automatically do this” on the brain.

I hope that my explanation of the problem makes sense. It is a complicated thing to try to describe.

How do you handle the Space Before and Space After between paragraph syles?

For example, I have body text para style set up with space before “O” and space after set at 0.125. This works great for consecutive paragraphs of the same style. But then when I need a numbered list, image (or any other paragraph style that has a space before value), I'm faced with a dillemma. Let's say it is an image paragraph style that follows the body text style. The image para style has a space before value of 0.375. InDesign adds the 0.125 from the body text space after and the 0.375 from the image space before and I get a 0.5 inch space between them.

So what is your strategy for dealing with ID adding these spaces together? (FrameMaker would take the largest of the two, not add them together.)

I can only see two ways of dealing with this:

• Override either the body text or image paragraph to decrease this spacing each time a paragraph style changes. This seems time consuming.
• Have a duplicate body text (end) para style that has a zero space after value and apply that style to the last instance before switching to the image style. This strategy will certainly cause us to double our para styles in the list, which seems less than desireable.

I don't see the benefit of having space before and space after values if you have to work-around this issue for each paragraph style change. Is there another way?

Missy

Hi,

I've searched for this, but must be blind. Sorry for long posting:

We are running short and long publications inhouse and they contains images, mostly illustrations, tables and diagrams. These are surprisingly called Fig. #, Table # and Diagram # (currently in separate paragraphs). When referred to, we (in some 80% of the cases) do it in brackets (→ fig. #), (→ table #), when on other spreads (→ diagram #, page #) etc.

I am looking for a way to have independent number series for all three kinds of items, and in long documents start new either manually or at predefined instances (h1).

Need to have is the ability to control where in the order the thing is, so the number sequence is correct. Creation sequence, position on page, etc cannot be used as a means to control this. Sometimes items come or go. That makes this not work with numbered lists, the lower case and upper case switch is another thing.

Nice to have would be the ability to have the number inside the paragraph, and not by the end: “Fig. # – Caption heading“.

Oh, also with a lot of character style bells and whistles, conditional (GREP), that is.

As we have very many publications in various executions, provided by inhouse departments and external agencies and not all are into this oh-so-rewarding way of working, we need something that is unobtrusive and can be safely overlooked by the ignorant. This is for the lengthy stuff

The plan is to refer to these items with e.g. Cross-References PRO from DTP tools.

Any ideas?

Hi everyone

I have an InDesign document that has a couple of indexes at the start of the file, and each entry in this index needs to link to a numbered paragraph in the rest of the document.

I have made all the Destination Hyperlinks.

Now when I come to link an entry in the index to the Destination Hyperlink I am faced with a big long list of over 300 destination links. It can take ages to scroll down the list to the correction hyperlink.

Does anyone know of a quick way of doing all this linking without scrolling down a big list in the hyperlinks panel?

Cheers for your help.

JohnyCarbon Superhero

I'm looking for the most effiecient way to link each endnote reference number in text chapters to the corresponding note in the endnote section at the end of the book. Currently, the note numbers in text, and the notes themselves are just plain text as imported from WORD. All epubs that I've looked at have the notes as dynamic. It is not clear how this is being done.

What I've tried: I downloaded and used the script end-to-end.jsx, then exported to epub. What I got was a note number in text with a blue underscore, that when clicked on, took me to that note. But not back from the note to the text (one way link). What step did I miss in making this work? Samples I'm comparing to have the link going both ways.

I also have read the posts about using the paragraph style to make the note text “numbered” like a list and then using that to link to the note number in the text to it. What I got: note numbers in the text disappeared when I selected it and created a hyperlink to the endnote. Also, when using the numbered option, all of the notes in the endnote section renumbered, so that chapter 2 notes started with the next note available after the notes in chapter 1 subhead. That won't work. Each section has to start agina with “1″ after its respective subhead (Notes to chapter 1, Notes to chapter 2, etc). I also want this section to be part of the epub just as it is in the print, so I don't want to cut and paste the notes into the individual chapters where they are referenced.

I've just completed Anne-Marie's WONDERFUL lesson on exporting from CS5.5 to epub/Kindle, etc. but it didn't cover this topic. I'm now going through the lesson again, guess I'm a slow learner. I've been doing books in Indesign for about 3 years, I'm very comfortable with it, but I've never had to create hyperlinks or cross-references, and don't even know the difference between them truth be told. I would love to know which Lynda.com video would give me the background I'm missing on how these work, and how to apply that to the endnotes situation.

Other items not working correctly, my nav TOC is good, but the TOC I generated in the document (and threaded to text) is not dynamic once I export to epub. It is blue (except for the frontmatter titles in the section WITH the generated TOC), but clicking on any title takes you nowhere. The NAV TOC works like a charm, although it contains more frontmatter than I need. Probably that would be best handled by editing the epub itself (???) All of the book documents also are in the epub, so it is complete in that sense.

so much to learn . . . help!

I'm looking for the most effiecient way to link each endnote reference number in text chapters to the corresponding note in the endnote section at the end of the book. Currently, the note numbers in text, and the notes themselves are just plain text as imported from WORD. All epubs that I've looked at have the notes as dynamic. It is not clear how this is being done.

What I've tried: I downloaded and used the script end-to-end.jsx, then exported to epub. What I got was a note number in text with a blue underscore, that when clicked on, took me to that note. But not back from the note to the text (one way link). What step did I miss in making this work? Samples I'm comparing to have the link going both ways.

I also have read the posts about using the paragraph style to make the note text “numbered” like a list and then using that to link to the note number in the text to it. What I got: note numbers in the text disappeared when I selected it and created a hyperlink to the endnote. Also, when using the numbered option, all of the notes in the endnote section renumbered, so that chapter 2 notes started with the next note available after the notes in chapter 1 subhead. That won't work. Each section has to start agina with “1” after its respective subhead (Notes to chapter 1, Notes to chapter 2, etc). I also want this section to be part of the epub just as it is in the print, so I don't want to cut and paste the notes into the individual chapters where they are referenced.

I've just completed Anne-Marie's WONDERFUL lesson on exporting from CS5.5 to epub/Kindle, etc. but it didn't cover this topic. I'm now going through the lesson again, guess I'm a slow learner. I've been doing books in Indesign for about 3 years, I'm very comfortable with it, but I've never had to create hyperlinks or cross-references, and don't even know the difference between them truth be told. I would love to know which Lynda.com video would give me the background I'm missing on how these work, and how to apply that to the endnotes situation.

Other items not working correctly, my nav TOC is good, but the TOC I generated in the document (and threaded to text) is not dynamic once I export to epub. It is blue (except for the frontmatter titles in the section WITH the generated TOC), but clicking on any title takes you nowhere. The NAV TOC works like a charm, although it contains more frontmatter than I need. Probably that would be best handled by editing the epub itself (???) All of the book documents also are in the epub, so it is complete in that sense.

so much to learn . . . help!

Hi guys!

Please I will aprecciate your help.

I made a Book in indesing that included 4 parts o chapters. Each one with 2 numbered list included in paragraph style:

Numbered list 1 con level 1 (this way: 1. abc)

Numbered list 2 con level 2 (this way: 1.1 abc)

Those 4 chapters share both Paragraph styles (because I used a template to get the same styles , etc). So, each chapter start with subtitles that have level 1 and also after level 2, this way:

Capitulo 1( first indd file)

1.- abc (paragraph style “X” con level 1 in numbered list)

1.1.- def (paragraph style “y” con level 2 in numbered list)

Capitulo 2 (second indd file)

1.- abc (paragraph style “X” con level 1 in numbered list)

1.1.- abc (paragraph style “y” con level 2 in numbered list)

The problem is when I create my TOC in Book way. Because my TOC need styles to include, but when I add my paragraph styles “X” and “y”, my TOC is wrong. Because It create each number list of subtitles in continue way, this is wrong because each chapter must start in : 1. abc , then 1.1 abc. I mean, the same that individual files before creating Book.

And the worse is that my files (chapters) also change!!!! So I get this: (in my TOC and my individual indd files)

chapter 1:

1. abc

1.1 abc

chapter 2:

2. abc (it must be: 1. abc again)

2.1 abc

I hope you understand. I get complicated with this topics.

pd. Its necesary not to have any copy (base on) of my Paraghap Styles (“X”, “y”), because i created for a few variants of “X” , “y” like space before paraghap. Because if it is, i will have to make local overrides instead create more syles just for few changes, and not get complicated so much creating TOC?

Thanks a lot and sorry about my english.