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Tom Venetia
Member@to all:
An update about this problem.
My cousin got a copy of my book. His copy has “some smudges” but contrary to the copies I got, he says the problem show on some few pages only.
Now what folks? Any ideas?
TIA
TomMemberSorry folks, forgot to mention the link to the page that discusses the printing problems with Linux Libertine:
Linux Libertine & Libreoffice 3.5 distorted printing
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1018069This is where I found the link to use the G version (full family download for free):
https://www.numbertext.org/linux/index.htmlRegards
Member@gus: We tried to publish this particular book with CreateSpace back in August 2014. As mentioned, after two months trying to accommodate our format with theirs and being unable to “speak” in European units, we gave up. Since then we are using Lulu.
And the Brazilian office (if it exists) never contacted us, neither their tech support mentioned that such route of communication existed.@to all: I discovered a page which deals with Linux Libertine problems to print. I was able to download a so-called G version which seemingly resolves those smudging problems. So, after my cousin reports on how his book arrived, and assuming that his copy presents problems too, we will try to replace the current fonts by the G version.
Note: We selected this particular font because it has a _very elegant_ serif design and reads well even in very small points and in light weight. It wasn’t because it is offered for free :-) This family was designed by a Hungarian group of SourceForge.
Regards
TomMemberThanks guys
@guz: It is likely that both companies deal differently with communication issues in the US and elsewhere. All is related to $$$$$$ :-)
It’s pouring knives here and you folks may be freezing ;-)
TomMemberPeople you are wonderful :-) thanks a bunch
@Dwayne: All font files from this family carry the TrueType extension (.ttf); however, clicking on each file, the description says:
Version: Version 5.1.4. ttfautohint (v0.9) (note: version numbers vary depending on the font’s weight/width/style.
OpenType Layout, TrueType Outlines.And you are right Dwayne, I tremble on my feet about the idea of having to switch the font family. Diagramming these two volumes took us 4 months!
@Coleen: thanks for this tip, will try.
Closing information: I have been struggling with Lulu for two months now. They produced two proofs on two different dates and sent me the copies (did I mention that the book is printed in two volumes?). All four copies show exactly the same problem. They are clueless and I am unable to speak/call their tech staff because they only correspond by email.
From the beginning I suspected their RIP and/or printing device and also what David wrote, namely that they could be outsourcing and printing in several different locations, thus different machines/RIPs.
As you know I live in Brazil, so they may as well have the books printed in China and shipped to me. Nevertheless, if the buyer lives in the States then possibly to cheapen the freight costs they will print it in the US. So now I did the following: I ordered a copy and shipped it to my cousin living in PA. Let’s see if he will get a copy with the same glitches or smudges. Will let you guys know.
If you have any further comments to the above please let me know. Thanks.
So long for now. I will keep this thread open :(
TomForgot this one, which may be of your interest if you deal with international auto-publishing users: Initially we tried to publish these books with CreateSpace-Amazon. Since we use the metric system of units, both volumes were in points/centimeters/millimeters. Believe it or not, CreateSpace was unable to handle it, willing to force us to remake the book in Imperial/US units. IMHO, self-publishing is the future of the publishing business but when one faces problems like the above it becomes a nightmare. Both companies (Lulu and CreateSpace) will only communicate through emails or their sites and hide their phone numbers!! Could well be that their tech support groups sit somewhere in Timbuktu.
MemberHello folks,
I’m back ;-)Please have a look at this scan:
https://x2t.com/sksb_smudge191I marked with red several words which, besides the letters ‘a’ and ‘l’, have printing distortions (smudging?).
Also, if magnified (see left side box) other distortions are evident in most characters.
Notice that right side text is the 2nd paragraph style mentioned previously (contains distorted chars, worst then Body Type). The left-hand side paragraph is Body Text.
@Dwayne: yes, my PDFs look perfect, this was confirmed even Lulu’s tech service.Please see below the job options settings (file called Full Bleed Lulu) sent by Lulu for exporting my PDFs.
General:
– Standard: None
– Compatibility: Acrobat 4 (PDF 1.3)
– Pages: all
– Embed Page Thumbnails: Off
– Optimize for fast Web view: On
– Create Tagged PDF: Off
– View PDF after Exporting: On
– Export Layers: Visible & Printable Layers
– Include Bookmarks: Off
– Include Hyperlinks: Off
– Include Non-Printing Objects: Off
– Include Visible Guides and Grids: Off
– Include Interactive Elements: Do not IncludeCompression:
– Color Images > Bicubic Downsampling to 300 pixels per inch for images
above 300 (Automatic JPEG)
– Grayscale Images > Bicubic Downsampling to 300 pixels per inch for images
above 300 (Automatic JPEG)
– Monochrome Images > Bicubic Downsampling to 1200 pixels per inch for images
above 1200
– Compression: ZIP
– Crop Image Data to Frames: On
– Compress Text and Line Art: OnMarks and Bleeds:
– All Marks: Off
– Type: Default
– Weight: 0.25 pt
– Offset: 2.117 mm (0.0833″)
– Bleed and Slug: Use Document Bleed Settings
– Include Slug Area: OffOutput:
– Color Conversion: No Color Conversion
– Destination: N/A
– Profile Inclusion Policy: Don’t Include ProfilesAdvanced:
– Subset fonts when percent of characters used is less than 1%
– Transparency Flattener Preset: [High Resolution]
– Ignore Spread Overrides: Off
– Job Definition Format: OffSecurity: defaults (all settings off)
MemberThanks guys :-)
The sole difference between the two offending paragraph styles and all the rest are mostly character sizes, keep options, and leading. All have hyphenation on.As mentioned, there was no problem when the printing was with Standard quality.
I am now rushing to a client, but later I will post a scan that depicts other paragraphs where you will notice random smudging of other characters besides ‘a’ and ‘l.’
Will be back, bear with me
TomMemberThanks to all of you, David, Dwayne and Bonnie.
First an answer to Bonnie, we are composing using InDesign CS6 and Windows 7.However, there are details that I did not mention previously which may point to other problem(s) then the font:
1. Linux Libertine (yes we are using the free version) is used in most texts/paragraph styles. Altogether, in this particular file (a book), there are 115 different paragraph styles. From these, 62 use the Linux Libertine font, but ONLY TWO styles render with smudging! ALL the other 60 print OK.
2. What follows is maybe the main point which could indicate that the problem is not with the font itself, rather maybe related to the printing process or machine. It just happens that initially we were printing the books in a cheaper version of Lulu’s print qualities, called Standard Paperback. The mentioned problem DID NOT show in the books printed with Standard quality! It only appeared when we switched to the so-called Premium Paperback quality.
Note: the reason for this print quality switch was that this particular job/book contains over 1,000 grayscale images (photos, illustrations, maps, diagrams) and in the Standard quality they did not print well – were blurred, sometimes a bit out of focus. This was eliminated in the Premium print, but this is when the smudging problem showed up.
So what do you think?
@Dwayne: assuming it could be the font, who is the vendor of the commercial version of Linux Libertine?Regards and thanks again
TomMemberHey Scoobydoo
Happy to be of help, Enjoy
TomMemberA frame is actually just a holder of images or texts. When you paste an image inside it, the image itself has a frame of its own. Do, to do what you want follow these steps:
I assume you wish to make exactly the same thing on the pic that you mentioned as a sample:
1. Using the frame tool create 4 rectangular frames side-by-side. They all should be set to contain graphics.
2. Align/size them horizontal and vertically as in your sample.
3. Now you will have 4 rectangular frames touching each other by their borders.
4. Here comes the trick: chose the direct selection tool (the white arrow, beneath the black one).
5. Now touch with this tool the right-most frame’s upper vertex. Drag it with the direct selection tool to the position you wish it to be on the final layout.
6. Repeat this operation with all upper vertexes. You will have now the frame containers that are slanted as on your image. Up to now they contain nothing.
7. change your tool to the selection tool (black arrow).
8. now click on each frame and with Ctrl-D place inside the images you wish them to contain. They will NOT be slanted.
9. If the images are smaller or larger then the frames you have to resize them so that when they are inside the frames the part in the cut is in scale.
10. Now use the fitting resource (Alt-Ctrl-E) and the image will beutifully fit in the slanted frame.MemberHello Rivkah,
I work with books and do not use ID’s book assembling feature. I compose each chapter in separate, but then I consolidate all chapters in one single ID file. This has several advantages when it comes to revision and correction. One is that if a certain repeated word or even a phrase has to be corrected it is very easy to do it. The same goes for consolidating objects, paragraph and character styles, or for that effect, anything that can be searched and replaced with GREP strings. Ditto for exporting a PDF file for printing. I strongly recommend this method of producing books.
Regards
TomMemberAndy,
The best and less tedious way of generating new characters for any digital font file is to use a font designing software, such as FontLab Studio.
The process is very easy: say you wish to create the character “c cedilla.” All you have to do is inside this app to copy the character “c” to the correct Unicode box and then add the little leg underneath. Since this app is vector based (such as Illustrator) it is very easy and quick to do such modifications. You do not have to worry with the kerning tables because that is intrinsically set by the app (although you can change the kerning of any pair). After this all you have to do is to generate and save the same file with a new name and load it in Windows or Mac.MemberHello Rayzel,
I cannot tell you why you are having this problem.
I see, however, alternatives: use a textbox with columns which are surely adjustable, or a table with invisible lines between rows and columns.MemberHello Crych,
If the original manuscript was written using MS Word, then it is very easy to convert footnotes into endnotes.
First you convert in Word the footnotes into endnotes and save the file with this change.
Then you import this file into ID (Ctrl-D) and place it on the pages where they belong.
The footnote references (superscript chars) remain where they originally were (adjoin to the words they reference) and the endnotes are placed at the last page(s) keeping the paragraph style and name the author has assigned inside the Word file to footnotes. Of course you can rename this style to anything you wish and define new type formatting and paragraph style features.
Regards
TomNovember 30, 2014 at 1:49 pm in reply to: Need help with spreads/pages – exporting to single pages pdf #71911MemberYes, Barry’s suggestion is the way to go. Set the option “General > Pages” and that will convert spreads into single pages (in the PDF file). However be careful with the bleed setting (if it exist); you must then include it by clicking on “Marks and Bleeds > Use Document Bleed Settings.”
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