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Tom Pardy
MemberOK, it?s over a week now. Doesn?t ANYBODY have a solution to offer me? Or at the very least a confirmation that CS6 has changed the rules?
July 6, 2013 at 9:24 pm in reply to: Advice on general practice concerning working between illustrator & indesign #34199MemberSaul, I am wondering why you are copying and pasting between Ai and ID. Surely it would make more sense to use the Place command? At least that way you keep your ID file size smaller, you can always use the Links panel to go back directly to Ai to make any editting you might consider necessary and it might mean your problem with the dashed line boundary and no image was avoided.
I would consider rasterising each image/page layout unnecessary toil when simply using the ?Show Import Options? button in the Place dialog allows you to import and place each pasteboard (page) separately. And keeping the images as vector images does, as you say, allow you much more flexibility for any future page resizes. Rasterizing loses that advantage.MemberIt seems to me, hmariego, that the paragraphs in your example have varying amounts of space between them. The bottom lines of each column align yet the lines just below the graphic do not align. Since you have indented the first line of each paragraph, most style manuals would suggest that there be no space between paragraphs.
Member?Converted? added to the title is InDesign?s way of telling you that the file was saved by an earlier version than the one you are now using. For instance, it may have been saved by InDesign CS5 but you are opening it in InDesign CS5.5 or CS6.
In such cases, hitting Command-S (or its PC equivalent) or selecting ?Save? from the File Menu, will always prompt you with the ?Save As?? dialog box as it may well be that you wish to keep the earlier version file so that it can still be opened with the earlier version of InDesign. Saving the file with a new name or in a different location gives you the option of being able to open either iteration in the appropriate version of InDesign.MemberI don’t consider myself an expert on book construction, having only done it a few dozen times but, in my experience, constructing an index is best regarded as virtually the last thing you do before printing the book. If you construct the index earlier in the project, any changes you make (such as adding a sentence that causes one of the chapters to be one page longer) will be ignored by the index you have already made, making its page references unreliable. The index is not really interactive — it doesn’t adjust for subsequent changes you make. (I stand to be corrected on this if I have misunderstood something.)
I have also found that creating a book file (.indb) fairly early in the process is also a good idea. I usually create the book file when I have the first two chapter files created (even if each of them only contains a few pages or maybe even just a few words) and then, as additional chapter files are created, I add them to the book. Each of the chapters can still be worked on individually (though it is a good idea to open them from within the book file rather than in isolation) and you don’t need to have any chapter, other than the one you are working on, open at any given time.
Yes, indexing is a massive task. For that reason it is a good idea to avoid the likelihood of having to redo it several times.
MemberThe only way I can think of to do it is to create an InDesign book (File Menu/New/Book…) and load all of your individual files into the book. You would need to make sure each document begins with a new section so that your page numbering would begin at 1 each time. But then you could synchronise all the paragraph and character styles across the whole “book”.
MemberIt’s always easy to be smart after the event and I am sorry if I come across like that. But it would have been better if, instead of simply copying the images from the web and pasting them into InDesign, you had saved them to disk. That would have allowed you to put them all in a folder and, from there Place them in InDesign in the usual way.
How frustratingly fiddly would it be to export them from the InDesign document and then treat the exported images as you would any other images for Placing? Probably too much, since you’re talking about “a hundred or so”. Oh well, learn for next time.
MemberBefore you Save your document, go to the first page. Then Save. Next time you open, it will open at the page that was displaying when you last Saved, ie., the first page.
MemberJohnware, your brilliance at scripting continues to amaze me!
I find scripting utterly baffling most of the time but your line by line explanation is most instructive. Thank you!
But then I have colleagues who are totally unsettled by CSS whereas to me it makes a lot of sense — I guess it is horses-for-courses.
Thank you again.
MemberThanks, all of you.
I tried putting in just one attribute (Fill: red) as you suggested, David, and that worked in the sense that it found the very first of all the red diamonds. Step one completed.
And thank you, Jongware, I had overlooked that Style Options section, thinking it was for something other than defined object styles — silly me!
But I am still confused about a few things.
Please, dleather, how do I create such a “nothing” style? I tried the suggestion of defining a new style (called “Nothing”, of course) with just one characteristic — I set opacity to zero. Then I ran the Find/Change dialog box and it found the first red diamond OK, but when I clicked “Change”, it stripped the diamond of all stroke and fill and left the (now empty) frame in the document. It would no longer print, of course, but it was certainly still there. Had I chosen “Change All”, I would still have had scores of empty frames in the document — not a desirable outcome.
My guess is that having any other single attribute would achieve the same result. Jongware, I don’t think it is possible to define an object style to include Non-Printing. It doesn’t seem to be an option anywhere in the New Object Style dialog box — but then, I have been known to overlook the obvious in the past! Even so, it would not be an automated means of deleting all these no-longer-wanted objects, simply of making them inert.
I will certainly go for the separate layer option next time around!
MemberHopsa, you posted while I was still composing my previous post. I will check out your suggestion tomorrow as well.
MemberThank you, Hopsa. I have downloaded that plugin from Rorohiko (I already have their wonderful Soxy in constant use) and tried it out briefly. It seems to do the job for a particular spread, which will certainly make life a little easier, even if I still have to go through spread by spread.
Thank you, Bob. I haven’t yet tried hunting for rectangles — it is late at night here so will have a go tomorrow. But there are other rectangles on every one of the pages (though not coloured red) so there may be a little tinkering to do. We’ll see tomorrow …
Thank you both again! :-)
MemberThis is the way I would do it, using a hanging indent. I would set up the tabs (yes, in a paragraph style) like this:
This would result in your paragraphs (OK, I used a different font) looking like this:
You could use character styles and nested styles to make the title bold and italic.
Hope that helps.
MemberThankyou, Jongware. I think I understand that.
I am always impressed that InDesign caters for so many more people than me. It (mostly) does what I want but then I discover that there are other features that I will probably never use but are of great use to other people.
MemberThanks, Bob. That did the trick.
Now let’s see who can explain the use of Structure.
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