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Theunis De Jong
Member“Hold down Ctrl (Windows) or Command (Mac OS) and press arrow keys to change the spacing between the frames.”
Theunis De Jong
MemberNot really, that's simnply the way it works …
*Any* other solution would be at least as much work as the current available ones: adding files one by one, or adding all of them and then dragging them around in the Book panel.
Theunis De Jong
MemberA possible issue could be that you cannot open your Interleaf document with InDesign …
What sort of document is that? Can your program “Interleaf” save as something you can import into ID? (XML, various database formats, Excel, RTF, Word … plain text, if all else fails …)
Theunis De Jong
MemberThat is very disappointing. You would think InDesign would be able to handle something as simple as colour in a variable, especially since it is a property specified in both a paragraph & character style!
Well, what if you look at it from the other way around. The one thing a variable does pick up is text .. and that's about the only thing you cannot specify in styles. So it seems Adobe didn't have your workflow on their minds when they implemented variables.
Mind you, I could think of a few tricks if something like this makes it into CS5.5. :-)
Theunis De Jong
MemberBullet settings are stored in paragraph styles. Are you using paragraph styles? It sounds like you don't:
.. I have set up the sizes the the bullet window. When I set a paragraph with a bullet in the menu bar at top ..
Theunis De Jong
MemberColor swatches cannot be accessed & set through variables. So you're going to have to do it manually, I think.
Your '14 different master pages' sounds like the best bet. Create the basic design first; then base all your colored ones on this. The general idea is that you would not change anything on the derived pages — only change the base master page.
You can safely override text frames to change the color but make sure not to change anything else. That's vitally important! ID tries to keep track of the original of overridden items, but if you make it stretch too far it'll loose the connection and “derived” items will not update anymore.
Theunis De Jong
MemberI’m not sure where else you imagine I might have typed the code …
It wasn't entirely clear from your post … Besides, you already got a number of other things wrong, so I thought I'd better make verify! Well, valuable lesson learned — ID can take a lot of abuse but at some point things stop working.
^t^i, I presume. So my follow-up query is: How and where do I set the tab distance?
Tab distance is easy (depending on whether you are using styles or not). When not using styles, call up the Tab ruler from within the footnote (it's in the Type menu) and start dragging tab stops. When using styles, call up the Tabs panel and do the same. You can also look up Paragraph Indents in the Help, then you won't need to specify the indent-to-here code.
Setting up a unique style for just the footnote number in a footnote is kinda tricky. I thought I remembered it used the same character style, but you are correct: that only applies for the text reference, and there are no special provisions for the footnote itself. So let's make one!
First create a new Character Style and name it “Note number”. Just enable your OSF here — no need to override font, size, or anything else (well, unless you want to — then it's OK). Then, in your Footnote paragraph style, add a GREP style. Set the text to match to this:
~F
and the style to apply to “Note number”. Then … press OK and enjoy. That's all!
(The Magic Trick is that the automatic footnote number is not a regular number, so the usual stuff of finding and matching digits is not necessary. Instead, the style is applied to just the Footnote Reference Marker, which is the official name of the “automatic footnote number” code that gets inserted in footnotes. You guessed right: that code is “~F”.)
Theunis De Jong
MemberI'm altering the font and making them superscripts in each note individually. I'm sure I'm missing a couple of tricks here. I guess I should post separate queries for all the problems I'm finding with footnotes …
It's possible you're having these problems because you are attempting to change them one by one. So it might just be InDesign saying to itself “Well he seems to be in charge”.
The tricks you are missing out on now are all available in the Document Footnote Options settings; for example, your oldstyle digits and superscript formatting can easily be done by creating a character style for these, and then setting this style to automatically apply to footnotes. However … if you already manually “messed up” your notes, it might simply not work anymore.
I also tried your ^>^i option, but nothing seemed to happen, so I think I must have misinterpreted the instruction.
That was supposed to go in the Document Footnote Options as well :)
.. How does it know where 'here' is?!
The code is called “Indent to Here” — a slightly better name would be “indent from here” — and 'here' would be the place where this code is inserted. In this case, if you have a note, en-space, and “Indent to Here”:
15.<en><HERE>Text …
the left indent of the following text is set to “<HERE>”.
Theunis De Jong
MemberAlas, the goold old Adobe Forum seems to be on the verge of a total breakdown. Attachments, login system, editor, search function, and even its own internal referring system (“More like this: Unable to retrieve content from the server” …) are all broken. It's sad.
Try this new link: https://forums.adobe.com/thread…..?tstart=60
I wonder how long that will stay valid.
Theunis De Jong
MemberAlas, the goold old Adobe Forum seems to be on the verge of a total breakdown. Attachments, login system, editor, search function, and even its own internal referring system (“More like this: Unable to retrieve content from the server” …) are all broken. It's sad.
Try this new link: https://forums.adobe.com/thread…..?tstart=60
I wonder how long that will stay valid.
Theunis De Jong
MemberI (for one) was hoping someone else would come up with a brilliant solution ;)
If I have to indent a footnote, I use a tab and regular left indent. Your one-or-more digits distance cannot be solved that way, though. Do you insert the en-space using the Footnote options? What if you add an Indent-to-Here right after that? These are the codes:
^>^i
Theunis De Jong
MemberNo suggestions, but that may be because your idea isn't really any standard at all for book design. InDesign's possibilities are firmly based upon historical book design.
Theunis De Jong
MemberIt's easy-to-the-extreme — that is, if you know the trick!
Draw your frame o' numbers the usual way. Draw an empty container rectangle. Cut number frame. Select empty rectangle. Choose “Paste into”. Now you can move the frame with the text around inside the container rectangle!

Of course you don't need to paste into a rectangle, it can be any other shape. Try this: convert some text to outlines, then make a large frame with the Lorum Ipsem placeholder text in a really small size, and paste that inside your outlined-text-frame.
(Hey, where did dat button library on the left come from? :D )
Theunis De Jong
MemberPrinting to PDF, or to PS and then distilling, have both been unnecessary for a long time now … Why not simply Export to PDF?
March 15, 2011 at 6:19 am in reply to: InDesign CS5 Question: Finding a text in locked text frame #58984Theunis De Jong
MemberGenerally speaking, it's not wise to open an existing file for editing in a newer version. You just might have to edit more than you think.
With every upgrade cycle, I took care not to do this, and I haven't had any of these problems at all.
(Only time I did get problems was when I got weird results with an existing file template; then again, it turned out that particular original file went all the way back to the original CS. So a simple saving as IDML cleansed that one.)
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