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MemberOh ok I was thinking you had them around a box or something. Sounds like you are doing the old quark trick where if you didn't have a italic or bold type you just used the “faux” bold or italic. That makes sense on what you are doing and I don't see why that would be a problem for a printer really.
I am guessing they run your pdf's through a pre-flight program and that's how it got caught I am guessing. I did some test on 18pt helvetica regular with the pt stroke you mentioned, exported to PDF using our settings we recommend for our customers and what we use ourself. Everything came out ok, you could barely see the stroke (i did yellow fill & black stroke) when leaving type normal but when I created “outlines” of the type in InD then exported to pdf you could really see more of a difference.
So in my opinion either way (outline vs non-outlined) if both the type fill and stroke are the same color the printer should have no difference and really won't be able to tell that you did that without running it through a preflight checklist.
Hope that helps you out.
B.T.W I wouldn't say your novices by any means. You all seem to be knowlegeable to me and that is what makes for a great end product.
Like I said any q's feel free to pick my feeble little brain and I'll help out where and when I can.
MemberThanks muzunova, as for me, what can I say I just love design and learning, and keeping up with the latest technologies and helping people out where I can. I have noticed that while someone may be a great designer, when it comes to Press Ready files some have no clue and I enjoy helping out where I can.
As for you question, is that a typo? 0.03pt stroke? If what you typed is correct well anything that small is well kinda useless in my opinion.
I don't believe you will even be able to see it. It most likely creates trap issues for the printer along with registration problems if it's more than just a single solid color (eg: 100% black, cyan, etc…) or even reverse out (white over color).
I don't even know if you could hold that on a digital press it being viewable or registration wise. Our rule of thumb for the longest time was .5pt and above, and for awhile we had to change all “hairline” strokes to .5pt. Of course there are some exceptions where smaller than .5pt are acceptable and now able to do because of press and prepress technologies.
In my opinion I feel they have legitimate concerns of even being able to see it along with being able hold that .03pt stroke while keeping up quality work along with the trap and registration issues it may create. So in my opinion it's fear of being able to see it along with the other points (bad pun lol) I mentioned.
I hope that helps answer your question anything else ask away. But most of all I would love to know why or would even love to see that file as why you would even use .03pt of a stroke.
MemberHi muzunova,
I think I may be of help and service to your needs. I have been doing pre-press for 17+ years for Universal Printing Company.
I have a lot of experience in this area and would recommend Universal Printing located in Saint Louis, Missouri. Universal Printing is a commercial printer with heat set web and sheet fed printing capabilities. A key part of your project is the binding. Not just anyone can put a 600 page book together. Universal has the experience and the capabilities in-house. We work with all the top publishers including Random House, Simon & Shuster, Hyperion, Barnes & Noble, Penguin, Scholastic, etc.
If the quality of your finished product is important you want a printer like Universal. Their attention to detail and use of current technology makes the entire process consistent and predictable. We have five and six color presses that produce the highest quality with a variety of in-line coating options [UV/Aqueous/Varnish].
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