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Shawn Girsberger
MemberThat’s exactly what I think happened, David, and said the same thing to the production editor on the project. I’ve personally worked with the printer through another client for many years, so I don’t want to ruffle any feathers, but it’s the only explanation that makes any sense, and fortunately, is simple to address either on their end or mine (preferably theirs, since it’s not my type!).
Shawn Girsberger
MemberMaybe I just need to reset that option, then, even though that’s what I set it for when I first became part of the cloud. : ) Thanks, David!
Shawn Girsberger
MemberIt was the question “How could content creation software (such as Adobe InDesign) help with the process of preparing content to be shared with an PSP?” Sorry, but I read this as InDesign being the content creator, rather than a designer or production person. Maybe not enough coffee yet . . . never fond of the word “content” . . . it feels so impersonal.
Shawn Girsberger
MemberHmm. The monitoring elves must have seen my post and fixed this . . . or something. All is well. Thank you.
Shawn Girsberger
MemberAnne-Marie, I do not know. Because the content was exported from old PM and ID files, into which old Word files had been placed, I suspect something was present in the original Word files. I’m working on the EPUB and MOBI conversions now, so will try to find that answer when I’m clear of this project! : )
Shawn Girsberger
MemberPeter, thank you for finding the invalid character—a small square—in the topic names. As you explained, it was Unicode 11, which in the InDesign documents you can search for (in the Grep tab) using \x{0011}. The script you wrote found and deleted these in the book documents and also deleted the leading spaces that created separate topics, AND it successfully reverted the codes I had added in the Index panel for what might have been other suspect characters when the index was generated.
The result was a clean, well-formed index list that I can work with in exporting the book to EPUB and MOBI now, with a minimum of intervention that is content-related at this point.
So, so grateful. I hope I can provide someone with this level of assistance some day.
Shawn Girsberger
MemberThanks, Peter. There weren’t many quote marks and apostrophes, but I did as you recommended and I’m still having issues. I’ve even gone through and substituted safe, temporary sequences for other suspicious characters, such as virgules, back slashes, colons, and exclamation points (composers!), with no success.
I think the issue may lie in the fact that we began with RTF files that were exported from old PageMaker and InDesign files (c. 2000), from the first edition of this book. The author wanted to use some text from the first edition and a subsequent followup (2007), so it was necessary to port out those old files for him to work with in Word. Even though I used paragraph and character styles religiously even back then, I’m sure that between the different fonts and versions of fonts used, the inevitable cut-and-paste from online sources that authors do, and any other kind of cruft between PM/ID/Word, there’s no easy way to diagnose the issue. I think that the altered accented characters (Á for ?, for example) may have been a result of different glyphs in different fonts?
The other reason for using the old files was that the two previous books had been indexed with PM and ID, and the index markers from those books came over, which was a pleasant surprise, but clearly, not that pleasant now.
I have looked at the information about the plug-ins and scripts that are available for cleaning up an index, and I can’t determine which would be appropriate, and more importantly, straightforward for me to use. I’ve been so pleased with your scripts–especially the compose3 script that allows me to create accented characters in fonts that don’t have those glyphs, and the footnotes to endnotes script, which allowed me to convert 1200-some footnotes to endnotes in a very long book. If you have advice as to which script might resolve this index issue, I’d be happy to purchase it. My husband was the indexer, and all I’m trying to do now is to generate the index so we can see it on the pages and more easily proof and then clean it up.
Thanks so much for your help.
November 10, 2016 at 8:17 pm in reply to: InDesign crashes when attempt made to edit table style #89670Shawn Girsberger
MemberThat’s what I would have done, except that I created and used this design just a few months ago, and have been adapting the common elements for a new project in CC 2017. My attempt to create a table style has been the only problem.
My workaround is to simply use the cell styles I had already created to format the rows. Technically, I don’t need to create the table style; I was just doing it out of habit. And with the number of projects that always show up at this time of year, the simple solution is to use the cell styles. The tables are not heavily formatted. Not an elegant solution, but one that does work.
Hope your designer tells you when a file is buggy beforehand from now on!
Shawn Girsberger
MemberI don’t know if anyone ever responded to you about this, but it sounds as if, by putting the text into individual frames, instead of linking the frames so the text flows from one frame to the next, you have created the individual page breaks?
Individual, unlinked frames become divs in the xhtml files, and depending on how you export to EPUB, may end up in individual xhtml files, which might account for your separate pages?
I’d need to see your files to know if this is the case. You may have already resolved this on your own, but I’d be happy to take a look if you’d like.
Shawn Girsberger
MemberThanks, Eugene. I’d forgotten about this!
Shawn Girsberger
MemberI use the “Show Import Options” all the time when I place multi-page PDFs, but most of the time I leave it unchecked for everything else. This is perfect. I use this similar feature when I open multi-page PDFs in PS. Don’t know why it didn’t occur to me to use it in ID, too.
Thanks, Gert!
Shawn Girsberger
MemberAh, I was making things more difficult than they needed to be. Thank for you for this! Yes, the ? is the multi sign (U+00D7). I agree about the mathematical minus. The authors are used to doing everything with Times in Word, so that’s how they “set” their type in ID. The good thing is that they did this consistently, so it’s a reliable S&R.
Shawn Girsberger
MemberI really do know my left from my right. I meant “audio on every verso — every left-hand page of each spread”.
Shawn Girsberger
MemberActually, the id isn’t necessary. The HTML and CSS were fine as they were.
The key is zooming. If the controller occupies too small a space, it doesn’t function, and that was the problem. I discovered this when I had to send the book to someone to look at on an iPhone (I would never read it or try to play the tracks there). When I tapped the Play arrow, nothing happened, but when I zoomed and could then see the entire controller, everything worked beautifully. Moral of the story is to make it big or go home.
Thank goodness for CSS.
Shawn Girsberger
MemberOkay, so I think I may have figured it out.
If I structure my HTML like so for the div audio-frame:
<div id=”p10-3″ /*this is arbitrary, of course — based on page 10, element 3*/ class=”audio-frame”>
and include this in the CSS:
#p10-3 {
}it seems to work?
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