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December 31, 2016 at 12:52 pm in reply to: Last page number variable by document, not section #90841
Scott Falkner
MemberSolved. The scope of the variable was set to Section, not Document. I am positive I did not change this yet somehow it changed. InDesign has decided to be my enemy lately, with all the preferences reset and now this. Is the Illustrator team in charge?
Scott Falkner
MemberThanks, Kai. To respond to your points…
1. The text has no ParagraphStyle applied. The behaviour is the same with no style, Basic Paragraph Style (my most hated feature in InDesign), or any other style. There seems to be no way to apply Paragraph Styles to cells without Option-clicking on the Cell Style.
2. When I edit the Table Style to change stroke drawing order the change is evident on screen.
3. I am using alternating row and column strokes in the table setup. First 1: [stroke attributes I want], Next: 0. Then using 0 pt. no colour strokes for the table borders, which gets me what I want.
4. No poo.
Table and Cell styles improvements look like low hanging fruit for an upgrade. But not low enough for the next upgrade, apparently. Yay scalable arrowheads, but why not editable arrowheads?
The benefits of styles are: Quick formatting, global formatting changes, and consistent formatting. But leaving out so many options weakens all of those benefits. How hard would it be to add these…
1. Add cell width and height to Cell Style. Conflicts will occur but can be resolved with a choice: Use largest value, use average value, use smallest value, prefer header, prefer footer, etc. Also allow these values in the Table Style.
2. Allow more options for specific rows and columns instead of just left column and right column. This will greatly improve the value of including row height and column width. The panel in the Table Style dialogue for selecting rows and columns will need to be fully dedicated, not just half of Table Setup.
3. Allow a Table Style to be applied to tabbed text from the Table Styles panel. This will convert the text to a table and apply the Table Style.
4. Include header and footer rows in Table Styles.
5. Fix the fucking bugs.
Scott Falkner
MemberHere’s a better example with ordinals in both places…
At two minutes after eleven o’clock on the morning of August 9th, the second atomic bomb was dropped, on Nagasaki. It was several days before the survivors of Hiroshima knew they had company, because the Japanese radio and newspapers were being extremely cautious on the subject of the strange weapon.
On August 9th, Mr. Tanimoto was still working in the park. He went to the suburb of Ushida, where his wife was staying with friends, and got a tent which he had stored there before the bombing. He now took it to the park and set it up as a shelter for some of the wounded who could not move or be moved. Whatever he did in the park, he felt he was being watched by the twenty-year-old girl, Mrs. Kamai, his former neighbor, whom he had seen on the day the bomb exploded, with her dead baby daughter in her arms. She kept the small corpse in her arms for four days, even though it began smelling bad on the second day.

Scott Falkner
MemberHere’s a sample:
On August 18th, twelve days after the bomb burst, Father Kleinsorge set out on foot for Hiroshima from the Novitiate with his papier-mâché suitcase in his hand. He had begun to think that this bag, in which he kept his valuables, had a talismanic quality, because of the way he had found it after the explosion, standing handle-side up in the doorway of his room, while the desk under which he had previously hidden it was in splinters all over the floor. Now he was using it to carry the yen belonging to the Society of Jesus to the Hiroshima branch of the Yokohama Specie Bank, already reopened in its half-ruined building.</dl>It should look like this:

Ordinal:
(?<=\d)(st|nd|rd|th)
Drop Cap:^(\w|\.|,|')* (\w|\.|,|')+ (\w|\.|,|')+ (\w|\.|,|')+
Small Caps:^\wScott Falkner
MemberIt didn’t work. It loses the ordinals in all places. But here’s what I did: I got rid of the nested style and did everything through GREP.
1. Apply style Ordinal to
(?<=\d)(st|nd|rd|th)2. Apply style Small Caps to
^(\w|\.|,|’)* (\w|\.|,|’)+ (\w|\.|,|’)+ (\w|\.|,|’)+
There’s a trailing space there.3. Apply style Drop Cap to
^\wIt was a bastard.
A clever GREP parser will see that I have decided to use four words instead of three.
Is there any tip on how to apply formatting in posts?
Scott Falkner
MemberSure. Make a character style in which discretionary ligatures are turned off. Use a GREP style to apply the character style to sp.
I used “st” instead because there was no “sp” in the placeholder text.
Scott Falkner
MemberWould use two text frames. I assume the space between the I to paragraph, th headline, and the following text is meant to be consistent, page to page. One text frame is the ly way to do this witht a lot of fiddling, moving frames up and down on every age when the lengths of those frames are not always the same.
Introduction would have a margin on the right side, or perhaps is would be relative to th spine. Same with the txt below, although that spacing could be achieved with a text wrap on the sidebar text frame.
Anything that makes it easier to maintain consistent spacing and formatting is your friend.
April 3, 2015 at 7:23 am in reply to: Applying object style to text copy-pasted into template #74364Scott Falkner
MemberEven better, paste with no text frame active. The text will be pasted into a new text frame, which will be selected and ready for the shortcut. Two steps: Command V then shortcut.
Scott Falkner
MemberAlan,
No, that’t not the issue as I understand it. He wants to relink to, I think, the same file but in another location this for a hundred InDesign files all in the same book.
Scott Falkner
MemberSonu, your suggestion is how to relink one file. He and I know how to do that. We are looking for a way to automate relinling the same image in about 100 InDesign files.
Scott Falkner
MemberIf you do have masks, see if you can use paths instead, then flatten the images. Or rethink the layout to eliminate the masks, perhaps by layering images in Photooshop and saving a flattened TIF.
Scott Falkner
MemberPurple, natch.

Scott Falkner
MemberPurple, natch.

Scott Falkner
MemberOh well, we'll just have to stick with our love of InDesign. And Blatner Tools.
The love that dare not speak its name.
BTW: I discovered that trick on my own back in CS1 or CS2. It just seemed logical to me that if the segment between two points could not contain the curve (or other corner effect) then the program would have to shrink the appearance of the effect to accommodate the segment. If the segment has a length of 0, then obviously there can be no corner effect.
I can’t test this on CS3, it does not play well with my kitty. Probably need to reformat. I’m due.
Scott Falkner
MemberOh well, we'll just have to stick with our love of InDesign. And Blatner Tools.
The love that dare not speak its name.
BTW: I discovered that trick on my own back in CS1 or CS2. It just seemed logical to me that if the segment between two points could not contain the curve (or other corner effect) then the program would have to shrink the appearance of the effect to accommodate the segment. If the segment has a length of 0, then obviously there can be no corner effect.
I can’t test this on CS3, it does not play well with my kitty. Probably need to reformat. I’m due.
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