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rondaroodle
MemberI’m sorry I didn’t clarify things from the start, I’m totally having issues with spot colors. The LAB mode spot colors will not produce a plate. When I go into swatch options, it gives the swatch name (PMS 1935 U, color type (spot) and color mode is LAB. The other job piece I’m doing for this customer with the blue pms color will totally let me edit the color which makes me think it was produced in a prior version of InDesign, some of the artwork we receive can be revisions of older work. In ink manager, I do not have “Use standard LAB values for spot” checked. You did give me an idea, I added a coated version of the pms color, changed the color mode to cmyk, and used the ink manager to alias to that swatch and ripped it and that worked. For the type of stuff we do I just need to be able to make a plate, it doesn’t matter if it’s C or U. For some reason the LAB color mode in InDesign seems to be an issue for my rip.
rondaroodle
MemberThe only way I can edit the swatch is if there is nothing placed on the page. If the file is placed the only edit I can do is to process. I did try using the ASC11 setting like you suggested and it did not work and I always leave it on Leave Unchanged. I had two similar jobs, one contained PMS 1935 and the other PMS 660, the one with 1935 red would not rip properly, the red was missing, the other one with 660 blue was fine. This is certainly perplexing. Now if I process through Illustrator or Acrobat it’s not a problem, but that is not always possible. Basically what I’ve been doing is placing the art, deleting the art, editing the swatch to CMYK mode and replacing the art. I’m pretty sure it’s a rip problem but it would be nice to have the ability in InDesign to edit the swatch to what ever mode is needed. This has only been a problem with CS6.
rondaroodle
MemberColor swatches with LAB color mode. When I place a file, in the swatch pallet it has the LAB icon instead of the CMYK icon. I have to export as eps file in order to rip it. We still use film. Our system is pretty outdated. Most of the time when I rip a file that has this kind of swatch icon, Rampage doesn’t seem to know what to do with it. Can I send screenshots?
rondaroodle
MemberFirst if you do remove the newer swatch books from the program swatch folder and use an older version of Pantone color books, I copied from a previous version and pasted into the CS6 folder then removed the new one, that seemed to work. But since that solution would get me in trouble I found another way. The work around solution I came up with was if you add your spot cmyk colors to the pallett before you place your document they will not convert to LAB. For instance I had to place a pdf with PMS 287 U into InDesign. If I just placed it in there it showed the LAB version. So I did a new color swatch, chose PANTONE+ Solid Uncoated then picked 287 U as a spot color (and it doesn't seem to matter if you use the new + book or an older version) then I went to the Color Mode drop down and chose CMYK then added it and placed my pdf. I had a cmyk swatch and was able to rip it perfectly. This works for placed images, but you have to add the swatch prior to placing it in the InDesign doc or it will add the color as LAB and it will not let you modify it. If your building a new doc, when adding your swatches just be sure to go to color mode and change to cmyk and you will be good to go. I hope this helps some one else who may have this same problem.
rondaroodle
MemberThanks for your suggestion Gert. I did read the article but it really is not of much help. I have already added the old swatch library to my CS6 swatch library. However I would not be allowed to remove a swatch library since this is my work station. What I need is to have the swatches read cmyk spot, not lab spot. Even when I add a swatch from the older color book. My rip does not recognize lab colors and there seems to be now way to change that either since it is a very old system.
rondaroodle
MemberLike Eugene I don't do those things either, but I think the email link is a good idea, usually when I'm having an issue it may also affect one or more of my co-workers, so being able to easily email the the links to them is a plus.
rondaroodle
MemberI have a similar problem with linking images. If I open a previous impo file that I want to reuse for another project, when I link to a new fpo it comes in at odd percentages, some times 102% sometimes 98%. The files can be the same dimensions say 7×10, it doesn't seem to matter. This is a problem as some of my impo documents are not basic side by side 8 1/2 x 11, they may be 3 1/2 x 5 with an .125 gutter in between for bleeds. I would like a little consistancy.
rondaroodle
MemberThanks a lot Jongware, YOU ROCK!!!! My sales rep has been driving me crazy with this issue and I'm one of those people who won't rest till they have an answer. In trying to figure this issue out I copied and pasted everything into a new document which worked, however I wanted to know why it worked, I wasn't satisfied with just a solution, I needed answers. I did a search on here for paragraph styles because I thought that was the issue, and came up with nothing that explained it. But I knew there was a reason, I just didn't search small caps. I followed your adobe link and found some additional information, there is actually a artical on this site all about this issue. Again thank you, thank you, you have made me feel smarter today.
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