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Rhiannon Miller
MemberCS5, fully up to date.
Yes, they're long documents: maybe 200 pages, with perhaps 8–10 stories of 20–30 pages each, all with some conditional text (a little on each page). I'm finding that if I take a single chapter into a new document, I usually get a stable document – but there have been exceptions. On the other hand, if I create a new 200-page document and fill it with placeholder text, and add some conditional text on each page (I have a script for this), this is stable. I'm wondering whether it's something to do with the Word documents that I import in as the source of the copy text. But if so, I have no idea how to track it down.
Rhiannon Miller
MemberYes, I tried removing the SING datastore and plugin a while back. It had no effect.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
February 28, 2011 at 10:09 am in reply to: Crop image data to frames sometimes isn't, and it gets stranger… #58823Rhiannon Miller
MemberI haven't seen this problem, but I have seen one that looks a little like the same thing (very slightly misaligned stroke). I was trying to mimic a Light weight in a font that didn't have one by adding a Paper-coloured stroke around the outside, with the Stroke Alignment set to Center. In the PDF, and when printed out on the office printer, the stroke didn't align properly with the character, so we ended up with what looked like a thin white letter sitting on top, and slightly to the side, of the black one. As with your problem, it looked completely fine in InDesign.
(In that case I found another font, which did have a Light weight, and looked sufficiently similar in the characters I was using. So I don't know whether the misalignment would actually have shown up on the press or not.)
Rhiannon Miller
MemberI want to be able to use it as a GREP style, so that text which matches a certain pattern never breaks between pages (though it can break over lines).
Rhiannon Miller
MemberI'm still having this problem, though I'm mostly avoiding it by steering clear of Conditional Text. There generally does come a point when I need it though, and what I'm mostly doing then is exporting to IDML and then applying the conditional text to that document. This usually doesn't crash, unless I try to hide the conditional text. To save the changes, I export out again as IDML rather than saving the new file as INDD.
I opened one such IDML file today, where two different conditions of text had been applied, and found that one of the conditions was applied not only to the paragraph I'd put it on, but also all subsequent paragraphs up to the next instance of the other condition. When I tried to return these paragraphs to their correct, unconditional, state, InDesign crashed, but was able to restore the document on restart.
Is this another clue?
Rhiannon Miller
MemberThe most obvious question is: are you placing them at actual size, or are you enlarging them in the layout?
There's also quite an interesting discussion going on about image formats and resolutions in the InDesign Myths thread.
Rhiannon Miller
MemberI see on Mark's link above that raster images should only be TIFFs. In the last couple of years I've got into the habit of, if I need to edit an image in Photoshop, saving it as a PSD file and using that in my InDesign document. Is there any reason I shouldn't do this, or is this another myth?
Maybe I'm fighting a losing battle here, but I was taught (by the old-school printer gaffer who took the production classes where I studied) that 'line' and 'halftone' were print-specific terms, 'line' referring to artwork that used only solid ink and 'halftone' to shaded or coloured work that required halftone screening. But most people I work with treat them as equivalents to 'diagram' (or 'image best suited to vector format'*) and 'photograph' (or 'image best suited to raster format') respectively. It's possible to have diagrams with different shades of grey/colour, which would need halftoning even if it's done as vector art. So I tend to avoid the terms 'line' and 'halftone' altogether, unless I'm specifically talking about screening – 'diagram' and 'photograph' is a more useful distinction and much more comprehensible to authors!
*Not necessarily an image in vector format though: we get graphs given to us as 300dpi JPEGs quite frequently!
Rhiannon Miller
MemberI see on Mark's link above that raster images should only be TIFFs. In the last couple of years I've got into the habit of, if I need to edit an image in Photoshop, saving it as a PSD file and using that in my InDesign document. Is there any reason I shouldn't do this, or is this another myth?
Maybe I'm fighting a losing battle here, but I was taught (by the old-school printer gaffer who took the production classes where I studied) that 'line' and 'halftone' were print-specific terms, 'line' referring to artwork that used only solid ink and 'halftone' to shaded or coloured work that required halftone screening. But most people I work with treat them as equivalents to 'diagram' (or 'image best suited to vector format'*) and 'photograph' (or 'image best suited to raster format') respectively. It's possible to have diagrams with different shades of grey/colour, which would need halftoning even if it's done as vector art. So I tend to avoid the terms 'line' and 'halftone' altogether, unless I'm specifically talking about screening – 'diagram' and 'photograph' is a more useful distinction and much more comprehensible to authors!
*Not necessarily an image in vector format though: we get graphs given to us as 300dpi JPEGs quite frequently!
Rhiannon Miller
MemberThanks Tom for your suggestions. Your assumptions are correct.
1. Sadly, printing direct from InDesign isn't an option, or at least not an easy one. The printer is in the church office; I don't have a laptop capable of running InDesign, and the church computer is a PC (the software I have is for Mac).
2. My print tests suggest that the printer expects RGB input (certainly RGB gives much better results). I've hunted through the driver options and the instruction manual and can't find anything about selecting RGB or CMYK. I've turned on the option in InDesign for outputting black as true black in RGB; I haven't seen the print results yet for that, but I was told yesterday by the chap who printed the PDF I'd sent that the printer was still accounting all pages as colour.
3. I'm not sure what you mean by 'gives up colour control to the printer'. Looking at the manual, I can only see options for selecting between colour and greyscale output. (There are lots of other options and settings, of course, but that's the only one that seems to have to do with colour.)
Next time I'm down there I'll have another poke through the print settings and see if I can find anything more.
Thanks for your help!
Rhiannon Miller
MemberI'd be interested in this too, if such a thing is available. A script maybe?
Rhiannon Miller
MemberExcellent, that works wonderfully. Thanks yet again!
Rhiannon Miller
MemberEven after a few minutes, it's still not changing. (Besides – a few minutes?! It takes at most 15 seconds to manually click through several layers of folders to get to the file I need. If it's that much quicker than 'Reveal in Bridge' from InDesign, then 'Reveal in Bridge' would seem to be a little pointless!) The bottom left-hand corner isn't showing any sign of doing any updating either. It just gives a summary of the folder it's currently in.
Reveal in Finder is instantaneous, as is Reveal in Mini Bridge. And then having Revealed it in the Mini Bridge, I can choose 'Reveal in Bridge' from the Mini Bridge menu and get straight to my file in the Bridge. It seems to be just Reveal in Bridge in the Links panel menu that has this problem.
Rhiannon Miller
MemberThe only trouble with replacing r with n is that it will also apply to the final paragraph return in the style – the one separating the address from the following heading. You'd be better off running another search first, to put an extra paragraph return at the start of your headings (and then removing it again afterwards).
Find: ^.+ (with your heading paragraph style/formatting)
Replace with: r$0
Then after you've replaced r with n in the address style/formatting, so
Find: nr
Replace with: r (with your address style/formatting)
January 31, 2011 at 6:45 am in reply to: Print Presets – Can I set Output to Black and White? #58565Rhiannon Miller
MemberYou don't have to buy a new printer. What Roland was talking about was not buying a new printer, but telling the computer that you have a different printer that only prints in black and white (even though you're actually pointing the computer to the same printer that you're already using). But you don't even need to do this (if you have a Mac, anyway; I don't know about Windows).
On a Mac, when you tell it to print (from any application), you get a dialog box with options for your printer, which are set by the printer driver. Somewhere in there, usually under something like 'color' or 'quality', you'll have the option to set it to black and white. You can then save that option as a preset, which will be available as an option whenever you print (from any application) in future. If you save another preset for colour output, you can switch back and forth between them as needed when you print.
I know these options are also available on Windows; what I don't know is whether you can save them as presets.
January 28, 2011 at 5:02 am in reply to: Coloured box around selected text without using frame tool #58539Rhiannon Miller
MemberThat sounds interesting. Has anyone here tried it? Is it any good?
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