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Phyllis Utter
ParticipantThanks! I’ll try that too! I’m the only one who ever touches the TOC, so it’s not likely to mess anyone else up. :)
Thanks, Phyllis
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantThanks. Maybe I’ll set up a separate TOC for the Bookmarks, but I was trying to make one thing do both! I work on a publication that’s constantly changing up until the minute we go to press. Every time I update the TOC, it’s convenient to have my Bookmarks updating too. The latter get confusing if they’re not organized into folders (hence the need for the heading). I’ll play around with some options though and maybe generate those separately.
BTW, Creative Pro Week was great!!! I’m still using my notes and I’ve been watching some of the videos as well. :)
Thanks, Phyllis
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantI’ll give that a try when I can. Right now there are too many pages and too little time. :-( But I don’t recall this ever being an issue in the past. I’ve changed bleeds on documents many times without ever having a question of margins. Why would it matter when the bleed and slug are outside the page?
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantThanks for the response! If I make *any* adjustments to the slug or the bleed, I get the error message that “This page size does not fit with the current margin and column settings. Select the appropriate pages in the Pages panel and then adjust using the Margins and Columns dialog box.” That error message is the same even if I’m decreasing the bleed (I was trying to set a slug of 3p). And I think it may be because there are some weird margin settings on certain pages, but in the past I could adjust the bleed and slug of a document regardless of what the margin settings were. They weren’t interdependent as far as I could tell. I’m glad I put enough bleed as I think I’d have to rebuild the document if I didn’t. As it is, I can’t add the slug that the printer would have liked.
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantAnd I just discovered this method: https://www.w3pedia.com/uk/convert-text-to-outlines-in-adobe-acrobat So I’ll use that. But I’d appreciate any input on problems to look out for! I seriously haven’t seen this request in years and years. And I’d try to discuss it with the company doing the printing, but we have a language barrier problem that would make the finer details difficult to discuss. :-(
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantAnd I’m finally in the process of printing this booklet! The company in Europe has asked me to convert all fonts to outlines in the PDF. It’s been YEARS since I’ve seen a printer request that. Does anyone know how to do this in Acrobat any more? I remember I used to search on “outlines” inside the Preflight dialog in Acrobat, but that option doesn’t seem to exist now. Does anyone know if it’s still buried in there somewhere? And anybody know what kind of problems to look out for with this kind of conversion? I’m working on an 84-page booklet.
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantHey David, What I’ve said does works :) I made that character style into a GREP style and put it in. When I pick that paragraph style, the apostrophe replaces immediately as I type or when I import type. :) I think it’s the item that says “Glyph Form: Proportional Width Forms” in the screenshot above that’s doing the trick. The alternate apostrophe is a style of the original apostrophe — it just wasn’t easy to figure out how to save it as a style. But the screenshot I’m showing above does work and is replacing the apostrophes everywhere with the alternate. It’s one of the glyphs that appears when you view only “alternates for selection” in the Glyphs panel. I guess those alternates are styles of the original (rather than completely separate characters) if you can get the styles right!
I’m going to check out your other articles above anyway though, as I’ll have other uses. So thanks!
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantActually, I might just be able to turn off Contextual Alternates in the style itself because that seems to be what it’s about. I’ll see what that does to other stuff before I do anything wholesale to all the characters though.
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantPS: I’ve tried to create the above style manually in the OpenType Features dialog, but I can never get that exact same style setting that way. I have to pull in the alternate apostrophe from the Glyphs panel and select it first — then build a character style — to get that exact same style.
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantHi all!
Thanks for the input! And my apologies for the slow response — I read everything but couldn’t come back to this for while due to a deadline. And David, yes, that is the article I was remembering!!!
BUT — it turns out the entire premise behind my question was wrong, hah. I misunderstood something about the Glyphs panel. I thought each glyph that was shown was an entirely different character. I didn’t realize that an alternate character is still the same character. I figured it out because I was doing Find-and-Replace on the apostrophes and kept mixing things up the find and replace fields. It seemed like the exact same find-and-replace would do opposite things. I finally found the apostrophe that looked right to me and selected it and said “new character style.” Here’s the character style I needed:
I did NOT realize you could call the alternate selection for a character like that!
And now that I know that, I’ll use a GREP style. :) I’ll base all the styles in this font off a base that includes that. :) I already have that based on a base style (per someone’s helpful class one time). Now I just need an additional base for the styles that use the font that has an ugly apostrophe in it.
Am I the only one who didn’t know that the alternates for the same character work like this?
Thanks, Phyllis
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantThanks, Chris! That’s very helpful! Never would have even thought about the spine direction!
Thanks, Phyllis
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantThanks. I was looking to see if there’s an automated approach though (to prevent doing find-and-replace repeatedly). I have editors constantly updating copy, and that automatically brings in the old apostrophe over and over (and I’m trying to make proofs at various stages of the process without having a bad character inside it). I thought I remembered a technique of somehow building the change in — it was whatever method allowed you to type an abbreviation and have it automatically convert to a name. Maybe that was in different software though!
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantThanks, David! Yeah I wonder where it originally came from. It was created by someone who no longer works with the organization that sent me the files, so it’s not possible for me to get in touch with the original designer. So I’m just trying to make sense of what I have here! And wondering what I don’t know about designing & printing in Europe!
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantThanks, I just got a response from a printing company in Europe, and they think the original setup was a mistake that no one noticed. That’s an odd mistake! I’m switching it back to odd numbers on the right!
Phyllis Utter
ParticipantOkay, thanks! It’s possible there are just anomalies in the file I received. But I think you have to work at it to force InDesign to number this way, so I’m not sure.
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