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ll1324
MemberOkay, I asked on the other boards, and it turns out it’s a bug in the World Ready Paragraph Composer. I’ve gone back to InDesign 15.0.3 so that I can get some work done.
ll1324
MemberBother! After some fiddling around, found it out. Here’s an example of a quick script to change the weight of each character in a selection so that it goes from the lightest weight to the heaviest (the result is the text gets darker and darker the further along you go). Note: you have to already have applied the Acumin Variable Concept font to the selected text, and you also have to select the text itself (it will only do the selected text):
//
if (app.documents.length == 0)
{
alert (“No open documents!”);
exit ();
}
selectedText =app.selection[0].characters;
t=selectedText[0];
myDesignAxesName=t.appliedFont.designAxesName;
myDesignAxesRange=t.appliedFont.designAxesRange;
myDesignAxesValues=t.appliedFont.designAxesValues;
range=myDesignAxesRange[0];
w0=range[0];
w1=range[1];
stepping=(w1-w0)/selectedText.length;
for (s=0; s<selectedText.length; s++)
{
myDesignAxesValues[0]=(w0+stepping*s);
selectedText[s].designAxes=myDesignAxesValues;
}
alert(“Done”);// End.
ll1324
MemberThank you so much!
(sound of facepalm) I should have known that. I think my brain isn’t working … need … coffee …
ll1324
MemberIt seems now that a lot of this is because laser printers are expecting RGB values and not CMYK values. K=100 means black, but not rich black. (Note also that “output all blacks as rich black” on preferences sometimes has an effect and sometimes doesn’t depending on various things).
Instead, convert to RGB colors when exporting in InDesign.
On the PDF export screen, click the output (on the left hand side) and convert the colors:
Color Conversion: Convert to Destination
Destination: sRGB ICE61966-2
Profile Inclusion Policy: Include DestinationThat has done the trick.
Some people have used the “Registration” swatch instead of “Black” for everything black, which sort-of does the trick, but don’t do that. If this is ever sent to a printing press, some pre-press worker will be annoyed, because registration swatch is for registration marks on printing presses.
ll1324
MemberEven more fiddling around.
Sometimes it helps if the “Simulate Overprint” checkbox is checked in the output panel (when exporting or printing), when exporting to sRGB (output conversion) That sometimes does the trick also, but I’m not sure why!
ll1324
MemberWhat I’m after is getting the glyph that is rendered on the screen. The “ff” appears as two characters in the string (which is normally what you get) but the glyph is only one “character”.
This is particularly nasty when one is rendering non-Latin languages, especially fonts with encoding table problems. Some of them are notorious for rendering fine on Apple’s software (such as pages) and coming out totally wrong in InDesign. The solution usually is either to switch fonts (which solves the problem but changes the font of course), or edit the font’s encoding tables with a font editor (which for some languages, is a lot of work). The thing is the glyphs are all there, so if one can dump the glyphs, that would also do the trick (since they’re all unicode).
Sometimes in desperation, one resorts to opening the glyphs screen and clicking the glyphs, but that is time consuming compared to typing at the keyboard.
ll1324
MemberAfter fiddling around, most of the problem seems to be the printer driver converting from CMYK to RGB.
The fix that I’ve found (which seems to work pretty good) is to start up Acrobat, and use the convert colors tool to convert it to sRGB.
This also works with CS6.
ll1324
MemberInstalled El Capitan. No problem with InDesign CS6, Photoshop CS6, or Bridge. All ran on the first try without problems, and came up reasonably fast. Of course, as mentioned above, Illustrator CS6 needed the Legacy Java, and with that it ran fine.
ll1324
MemberHello!
Thinking of things that we do (the topic of this thread, and especially since Hank earlier mentioned being a screen printer), I'm wondering how many of us have actually operated a printing press, since for some of us, that what the final output will be. Not that everyone has to run a press (especially if one is designing for the web!!), and there are of course, a lot of great designers who never ran a press. Running a press can be so frustrating !! Really really frustrating. If you want to “meet the press”, prepare to be frustrated.
I've done pretty much the whole cycle, from inputting in the keyboard, doing the design in InDesign, making the plate, and running it on an offset press (an old Multilith 1250W). That includes all the nastiness such as cleaning the press (remember that offset ink is like very stiff grease), getting the paper in the water fountain (and all the headache of cleanup after that), paper in the ink rollers, paper stuck on the rubber blanket, paper which misses the grippers, registration headaches, wrecking the plate in the middle of the run, cleaning the press yet again, etc. etc. If we think we get misfeeds on a laser printer or ink jet, that's nothing. An offset press has a thousand more ways to misfeed paper, and at a much higher speed too.
There are a lot of tricks that press operators could do, if they really wanted to, like putting two spot colors on each side of the ink tray to print two different colors in one pass (one half of the page is one color, and the half of the page is the other color), but I don't think I could convince my current print supplier to do that…..
Once we didn't have any powder for the coated stock, so out of desperation, I put baby powder in the powder sprayer. The “pressroom” started smelling more like a nursury…. !!
For a while, when someone on InDesignSecrets wrote “Talk to your print provider” on the blog, it was a bit amusing, since on the other side of the wall (behind the computer with InDesign) was the press….But in some ways, I'm glad I'm not my own print provider now. Takes away a lot of frustration.
Ooops! I think I'm getting off topic.
ll1324
MemberHello!
Thinking of things that we do (the topic of this thread, and especially since Hank earlier mentioned being a screen printer), I'm wondering how many of us have actually operated a printing press, since for some of us, that what the final output will be. Not that everyone has to run a press (especially if one is designing for the web!!), and there are of course, a lot of great designers who never ran a press. Running a press can be so frustrating !! Really really frustrating. If you want to “meet the press”, prepare to be frustrated.
I've done pretty much the whole cycle, from inputting in the keyboard, doing the design in InDesign, making the plate, and running it on an offset press (an old Multilith 1250W). That includes all the nastiness such as cleaning the press (remember that offset ink is like very stiff grease), getting the paper in the water fountain (and all the headache of cleanup after that), paper in the ink rollers, paper stuck on the rubber blanket, paper which misses the grippers, registration headaches, wrecking the plate in the middle of the run, cleaning the press yet again, etc. etc. If we think we get misfeeds on a laser printer or ink jet, that's nothing. An offset press has a thousand more ways to misfeed paper, and at a much higher speed too.
There are a lot of tricks that press operators could do, if they really wanted to, like putting two spot colors on each side of the ink tray to print two different colors in one pass (one half of the page is one color, and the half of the page is the other color), but I don't think I could convince my current print supplier to do that…..
Once we didn't have any powder for the coated stock, so out of desperation, I put baby powder in the powder sprayer. The “pressroom” started smelling more like a nursury…. !!
For a while, when someone on InDesignSecrets wrote “Talk to your print provider” on the blog, it was a bit amusing, since on the other side of the wall (behind the computer with InDesign) was the press….But in some ways, I'm glad I'm not my own print provider now. Takes away a lot of frustration.
Ooops! I think I'm getting off topic.
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